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13 years ago
Meadow
Interesting review on Amazon by Stephen Mitchell for Cry in the desert and Losing the moon: QuoteWell-intentioned but inaccurate, August 28, 2009 By Stephen Mitchell This book was written with the best of intentions, by a writer with a touching sense of devotion to Katie. But as an account of Katie's experience and insight, it is inaccurate, and many of the details about Katie's l
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13 years ago
Meadow
Isn't it weird that while Stephen Mitchell is pressing charges against Wayne Dyer (http://thresq.hollywoodreporter.com/2010/05/selfhelp-guru-wayne-dyer-sued-for-.html) for plagiarism, BK still has an endorsing quote by Wayne Dyer on her website?
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14 years ago
Meadow
She is almost bullying the little guy. One can clearly see how he is intimidated or overwhelmed by her so called 'wisdom'. He gets no space whatsoever to express how he would feel if someone close to him would die. She practically ridicules him. Especially when she says: 'I really want you to get this...' is beyond arrogance.
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14 years ago
Meadow
Just saw this BK clip on YouTube. I think it is outrageous. The woman appears to be in total denial of any other emotion than her so called joy and happiness. Almost like no one is allowed to be sad when a loved one dies. Isn't sadness part of the natural and necessary grieving process? What I find remarkable is her almost indignant response to whatever anyone says, as if nothing they say is
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14 years ago
Meadow
And here is the next twitter: QuoteYou don’t experience anxiety unless you’ve attached to a thought that isn’t true for you. It’s that simple In the light of what just happened, and is still happening in Haiti, this is an outrage, especially coming from someone who is raking in the millions, and living in a Hollywood-like estate. How anyone could come out in public with a statement like this
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14 years ago
Meadow
BK's latest twitter entrance: QuoteThere’s such abundance here, now, always. There’s a table. There’s a floor. There’s a rug on the floor. There’s a window. There’s a sky. ... and there's an earthquite in Haiti with over 200.000 dead and more than a million people who lost their homes and everything they own. But of course that isn't part of her 'here and now'. Yet she
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
14 years ago
Meadow
From BK's latest teleconference with her facilitators: "Doing the work with a client is just like following the yellow brick road..." Does that make her the Wizard of Oz, or the Wicked Witch of the West?
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14 years ago
Meadow
I heard from a very reliable and first hand source that Stephen Mitchell is a regular pot smoker, together with one of his friends. This is in fact old news, because there have been similar reports of him smoking pot while being in Europe. Why aren't I surprised?
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14 years ago
Meadow
BK's latest tweet: All sadness is a tantrum This is so typical: 'all sadness is a tantrum'. No negative emotions are allowed. BK mocks people through her manner of questioning, making them feel ridiculous, making her audiences laugh at them. She is just another sales-lady in the 'feel-good' business. Because she claims that she hasn't been angry, sad, etc. for
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14 years ago
Meadow
A little butterfly sent me a fragment of BK's teleconference call in August, where she continues to discuss the code of ethics: QuoteCaller: When I am really honest, number 10 on the Code of Ethics is the hardest one for me: "I will not give my clients advice." And it seems as if the place where I'm susceptible to giving advice, is this inclination to tell people how to do
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14 years ago
Meadow
QuoteMeadowI just found this on Guruphiliac, it was posted on August 22nd: QuoteMy sister just went to Bryon Katie's The School. She had to leave The School and be taken to a psychiatric hospital. She has always struggled with depression, but never has she ever had manic behavior or hallucinations.... My family started looking up information about this "conference" she went to a
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14 years ago
Meadow
Christa you ROCK!!! Am working on the transcript, it will take me a couple of days.
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
14 years ago
Meadow
I just found this on Guruphiliac, it was posted on August 22nd: QuoteMy sister just went to Bryon Katie's The School. She had to leave The School and be taken to a psychiatric hospital. She has always struggled with depression, but never has she ever had manic behavior or hallucinations.... My family started looking up information about this "conference" she went to and we are s
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14 years ago
Meadow
Yet another Tweet from BK: QuotePeace is scary, there's no self-induced adrenaline in it. Who would u b w/o your story? It sounds like self-induced adrenaline is not a good thing, since it makes people think that peace is scary. But what is self-induced adrenaline? How does she come up with all this nonsense? BTW this is how she works on people's guilt, giving them the sense the
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14 years ago
Meadow
QuoteTarSpielQuoterrmoderatorTarSpiel: You have read one book and watched some YouTube and you state, "I think that the work can achieve some profound results." That does seem like a "sock-puppet" here to promote Katie. Well, that's my opinion from what I've seen of it, and how I've seen the work affect some of my own thought processes. I'm not s
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14 years ago
Meadow
QuoteTarSpielQuoteThe AnticultThere appears to be some new information posted on the Janaki blog? Its written in red, in the middle of the page, linked below. Its about how one of the houses in Barstow, the basement was filled with boxes of books of this kind of material. Now of course, the trained eye can see the direct copying, and slight modifcation of various techniques, as has been shown
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14 years ago
Meadow
QuoteThe AnticultThe tone sounds basically very similar to the Kassy/Anatta/skepticalrepublican sock-puppetry. Kassy's hobby And I would like to add Makepeace to this queue
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14 years ago
Meadow
QuoteTarSpiel In that book, she gave no indication that the crowning achievement of the process was to come to the "spiritual" realization that "those events DID NOT HAPPEN." Byron Katie on Twitter: QuoteForgiveness is realizing that what you thought happened, didn't.
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14 years ago
Meadow
QuoteTarSpielQuoterrmoderatorTarSpiel: You seem to be arguing against the existence of objective reality. Regardless of subjective feelings there is such a thing as objective and that's also "common sense." When cults or cult-like groups hurt people that is an objective reality. Hi rr...I don't think I'd say that I'm arguing against the existence of obje
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14 years ago
Meadow
QuoteTarSpielQuoteMeadowByron Katie's last twitter post: QuoteForgiveness is discovering that what you thought happened, didn’t. You realize that there was never anything to forgive. Oh my God, when will this woman ever listen to her own advice and live up to it? These are no more than spiritual marketing blurbs that don't mean a thing. How would you define "forgiveness&qu
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14 years ago
Meadow
QuoteThe AnticultBut notice the other TRICKY language they use: - "Thank you for making it possible for The Work to spread....events in countries just discovering The Work" - "Your donations keep the helpline available free of charge, and make it possible for those generous with their time to be met with necessary expenses to travel throughout the world." So how do they ex
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14 years ago
Meadow
I found this link on BK's blog: Just being curious here. Are companies allowed to be for-profit and non-profit at the same time? This would mean that BK does all her business through her for-profit company, which is possibly her excuse to not have to publicly show financial records. And then she still gets to keep her non-profit status where she can receive donations with a possible tax
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14 years ago
Meadow
Byron Katie's last twitter post: QuoteForgiveness is discovering that what you thought happened, didn’t. You realize that there was never anything to forgive. Oh my God, when will this woman ever listen to her own advice and live up to it? These are no more than spiritual marketing blurbs that don't mean a thing.
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14 years ago
Meadow
QuoteStoic'Would they go this far, and post fanmail that is self concocted?' In the world of business marketing, which is Byron Katie's main business, the genuine untouched letter being published would be the real shocker. The primary purpose of BK's blog is advertising, selling her product, not dispensing accurate information at all. 'Dave' is probably a profess
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14 years ago
Meadow
Quotehelpme2timesSee the new blog entry by Janaki: Byron Katie & Janaki: "She is wacky..." This was posted as a comment on the new entry on Janaki's blog. I think it says it all. QuoteThis post is shows how Katie should take a dose of her own advice. Since Katie was calling a facilitator wacky several times in a teleconference she gave, according to what Katie teache
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14 years ago
Meadow
A couple of weeks ago, she posted another raving song of praise, that was a scanned copy of a handwritten letter, almost as if she wanted to prove that these letters are for real (as if that would prove anything).
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14 years ago
Meadow
There is a letter posted on BK's blog , and as usual it is a raving song of praise. For some reason this one doesn't ring genuine with me at all. It is too well written, too slick and simply not very authentic. Usually people who are reading BK's book for the first time, or people that learn about the work for the first time, are not able to apply this system the way this person d
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14 years ago
Meadow
So people actually pay for being robbed of their most valuable possessions...
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14 years ago
Meadow
QuotePeople, competing for BK’s love, gave their computers, homes, wedding rings…. It has been said before on this forum, but I don’t think it can be said enough, just so that people are warned before attending one of BK’s programmes. This video shows how Derren Brown robs someone of their possessions by just asking, while using the conversational hypnosis technique. That is exactly what
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14 years ago
Meadow
This comment was posted on Janaki's weblog on the contact page: QuoteI have done the workshop in Amsterdam in 2003 and the School in LA in 2005. While the experience in Amsterdam was serious, straight forward and simple while deep and truthful, the one in LA was confusing more than setting free: For one I was revolted by the obvious deliberate emotional work up to the point where people l
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