Like the Anticult said: QuoteWho would Byron Katie be without her (marketing) story? It is so true. People are being asked to drop their stories, and they do so willingly. They drop their stories about their attachment to their wedding rings and their money. They drop their stories about incest and war and any kind of distaster you could imagine. There is just this one tiny little story t
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And this is extremely dangerous. People really, really want to believe in something good, in something holy. So they are presented with something that is holy, accesible, close to them (BK addresses everyone as 'family'), something that has integrity, something that promotes peace and promises them the end of suffering, something they can belong to, something they can give their hear
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Quotegreg hamDid Byron Katie have a legitimate spiritual awakening or was her "stroke of insight" simply a business strategy? 30000$ to spend time with her......katie is a con (...It is actually $ 4985.) That is the big question. According to her followers, there is no doubt about that. According to those who are starting to have second thoughts about BK and the work, there is
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Life Coach Mary is very, very scary. Her reminded me strongly of Igor Ledochowski’s aggressive marketing strategy. She uses exactly the same format, layout, fonts and colors. It figures that BK hooks up with someone like that. She loves to jump on people’s wagon, especially if she deems them powerful or influential. She tried the same with Dr. Jill Bolte. Here is a letter that BK wrote to Bolte
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I found a very recent interview between Byron Katie and someone called Mary E. Allen, who calls herself ‘America’s Inner Peace Coach’. BK starts out with her usual love bombing and says to Mary: “Reading your website, everything around you is authentic, there are no catches in it, no hidden stuff. I can’t tell you how I appreciate that Mary”. The interesting thing is this: why would BK be foc
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QuotescrambledeggsEven if the cockroach really did crawl over Byron Katie's foot, compare this "awakening" side by side with the stories of Suzanne Segal and Jill Bolte Taylor . There was a MEDICAL explanation for their "spiritual awakening" experiences: Suzanne Segal died of a brain tumor and Jill Bolte Taylor survived a massive stroke. Did Byron Katie have a legiti
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QuoteThe AnticultThere appears to be a new update to the Janaki blog? There is a transcript posted of a recent teleconference with Byron Katie? If you want to read the words of a skilled master manipulator, read that transcript. Then you have the classic Byron Katie...first she "labels" her critics as being "wacky". Then she pulls out the Turnaround... QUOTE: "My
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Anticult, is this what you are referring to? QuoteAfter Katie’s conversation with the people in the other car, we proceeded to the hot springs, showered and entered the women’s pool naked. No one else was in the pool. Some old women were sitting in the sun outside and up above the pool. My three-year-old self took over and in a small child’s voice I spontaneously asked Mama Katie if she loved
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BK's Twitter entry: QuoteSeeking love keeps you from the awareness that you already have it—that you are it. Translated: "I am a spiritual lollypop, why don't you come and suck on me". Who does she think the folks are, that need to hear this?
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BK's Twitter entries alone will be enough to keep this forum going for a long time!!! The latest one: QuoteThe illusion is the mirror image attaching to a belief. The illusion is the ego thinking that it’s separate. It’s not. How thick do you need to be to not see through this? This is BK at her best. Throwing about oneliners that are fuzzy, confusing and basically say nothing, but to th
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So SM's alliance with BK must have come as a godsend to him. I don't believe he was particularly well known or famous before he met her. With her support he really struck a whole new audience, and of course he benefits from her public image. I couldn't find it now, but a while ago there was a 'highly recommended' section on their store page. On it where all Stephen Mitche
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QuoteThat Byron Katie Inc Certified Facilitators page is something else. There appear to be 100-115 "certified" facilitators so far. As shown in this thread, to become a "certified" facilitator costs a bundle (how much in total?). And there are a couple of blank spots! Have people been pulled? Of course it is equally possible that people are starting to drop out and
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BK's last Twitter post: (is this an imbedded command?) QuoteUntil you are loyal to yourself, you can’t be loyal to another person. I agree with her. I think that she is totally loyal to herself, therefore her followers can rest assured in the knowledge that BK will be loyal to them. She is the perfect example of this statement. If she wants to throw people out (I noticed the blank sp
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From the Code of Ethics which Katie wants to be signed by all her people: Quote“I will not engage in conduct and make statements that may negatively affect another facilitator and or The Work”. So no one is allowed to make statements that may negatively affect another facilitator. I wonder if she signed it herself???? Because it seems that she is allowed to make statements that negatively
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QuoteThe Anticult: There is another Janaki blog update...where there is text where Byron Katie is endorsing Janaki. I looked up the endorsement, and found an interesting comment: QuoteJanaki, I don’t know what you are attempting to prove by publishing this. The only thing you have proven is that she changed her mind about you. Are you enjoying yourself, or merely prolonging your own pain
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QuoteThe Anticult Also notice, that Christin Lore Weber appears to have not said ONE-WORD about Byron Katie since? What happened? QuoteMeadowQuote from A cry in the desert: QuoteByron is the son of God. She is someone who realized the truth of Jesus' sayings. She realized the oneness of all creation, her oneness with creation, her oneness with her brother—that insight is so
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Quote from A cry in the desert: QuoteByron is the son of God. She is someone who realized the truth of Jesus' sayings. She realized the oneness of all creation, her oneness with creation, her oneness with her brother—that insight is so extraordinary. And of course, Christ had it, but when you feel it, the freedom is incredible, and the connectedness –oh! In fact, I don't know why I d
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I looked at the Torrentz site that TAC posted. I agree, the Igor Ledochowski site contains very dangerous stuff. It seems he is a master of marketing (very aggressively) and that he has cornered the market when it comes to hypnosis (All roads lead to Igor ). BTW the torrentz site has a comment at the bottom saying that it is not their fault if your monitor blows up when you download, so I woul
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It all gets so tricky. BK will say that she doesn't know what enlightenment is, but with this quote that is exactly what she promises people, provided they stay with the work of course. Quote: If you knew how important you are—and without the story you come to know it—you would fragment into a billion pieces and just be light.
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Thanks Yasmin, for the video link. Yeah, I had read about the fact that the subconscious doesn't know negation, so therefore, if you tell someone: don't think of a monkey, what the command actually is, is: think of a monkey. BK often tells people during her talks: don't take my word for it, so here the command would actually be: Take my word for it. I am not a teacher, would
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Quote"Gaslighting is the systematic attempt by one person to erode another’s reality. This is done by telling them that what they are experiencing isn’t so – and, the gradual giving up on the part of the other person.” Stern goes on to say that gaslighting generally takes two to tango: one person who needs to be in control to maintain his sense of self; the other, who needs the relationsh
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From The Gaslight Effect: QuoteThe Gaslight effect results from a relationship between two people: a gaslighter, who needs to be right in order to preserve his own sense of self and his sense of having power in the world; and a gaslightee, who allows the gaslighter to define her sense of reality because she idealizes him and seeks his approval. Gaslighters and gaslightees can be of either gend
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Thank you Stoic, for your post on gaslighting. I am definitely going to look into that book. And the manipulation goes on and on. Just found some more examples of the effect they are causing, and how people adopt someone's bullshit and have it dominate their lives. This is a very recent post on one of BK’s forums (jumping back to the wedding rings). Quote…I did not give my wedding
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QuotecorboyQuoteHave you ever taken a lot of morphine or saw someone who took a lot of morphine? It is not a lot of fun. BK is basically telling this woman to put herself into a coma. Can you imagine the nausea and the vomitting that could happen? If opiates are taken in large quantities, it can give hellish constipation and even lead to fecal impaction. Two, respiratory depression and dea
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Some more goodies from Solvejg on Janakis blog: Quote“Since this apparently is an alias” you write. You like to thow doubt about the integrity of others it seems. I am amazed that Byron Katie put up with you for so long. I am a woman and Solvejg is a Norwegian name given to me by my parents. I am born in Copenhagen, Denmark in 1944 and now settled in Bangalore India for the last four years. I
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QuoteQuote from The Anticult Its very accurate that this Byron Katie situation is about Power. Its not just about money, even though the system they are running is a brilliant cash flow system with much of the 'cash' in the form of what many are calling "free labor". Its pure profit. Labor is the biggest cost of any business, and if you can get that labor (Staff) for fr
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QuoteChristaQuoteMeadow Someone sent me a copy of a teleconference that BK regularly holds with people who are in her certification program. Some interesting listening. <SNIP> I do have some close friends that are actually in the certification program. It is clear that even within the ranks, doubt has started to creep in, since some of them are feeding me information. They are
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Just read something on BK's blog that I think is outrageous and criminal. BK is doing her thing with a woman who is suffering from cancer and is in a lot of pain. Read the suggestion that she BK is making to this lady: QuoteKatie: Yes. So we’ll work with—we’ll continue to work with what we can work with. And doctors can deal with physical pain. It’s up to you. You could take so much
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Yes Corboy, I realize that. Like I said, I don't endorse the people who are being quoted in the book. I just liked the bit that I spotted about power and how spiritual teacher abuse power.
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