Quotekaram-mudraWhat is behind the curtain? A totally different behavier and view than the plain sheep may belief. Here a quote from Benjamin Walker´s book "Tantrism": "Tantrics regard themselves as an élite who are above the moral and social laws that govern the pashu or herd. To them nothing is prohibited and all things are permissible. Therefore, one of the first things
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In the last few weeks at my local NKT centre the resident teacher twice has claimed whilst giving teachings that Geshe Kelsang is the only teacher in the world who is giving the path to Enlightenment correctly. Basically out of the 1000s of people Trijang Rinpoche taught in Tibet, none of them are giving correct teachings. We were told that kadampa Buddhism is the only Buddhism that works. Basica
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Quotegrainne uaileTibetan Buddhists Believe You Need to Have Sex to Become Enlightened Lama Thubten Yeshe (Introduction to Tantra, 147) wrote: "There is a certain point in the mastery of the completion stage where physically embracing a consort is necessary . . . ." Je Tsong Khapa who founded the Gelugpas, agreed that to attain Buddha-hood in one lifetime, it is necessary to us
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SEEKING ADVERTISING I am seeking to get through to those still in the NKT who are wishing for reform. Reforming administration is not editing the teachings. The current administrative techniques are damaging everything. So if you have any ideas how I can advertise to these people and tell them about my campaign for reform please message me. It is an anonymous campaign so that anyone can join w
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SEEKING ADVERTISING I am seeking to get through to those still in the NKT who are wishing for reform. Reforming administration is not editing the teachings. The current administrative techniques are damaging everything. So if you have any ideas how I can advertise to these people and tell them about my campaign for reform please message me. It is an anonymous campaign so that anyone can join w
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Hi all I wrote ages ago but am back now. I was hanging on to the NKT until I realised the festival fees had gone through the roof. This year it costs £200 for spring festival. If its £200 for 4 days for 14 days surely its going to be £1000?? Its totally wrong. teachings in this tradition have bee watered down for years and its at the point where you can only get a traditional Buddhist teaching i
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Dear Tenzin Thankyou for your reply. Indeed I think you forgot but I was hoping you would offer your opinion but you said you were unable to because you were about to go on holiday! The yahoo group you mention is closed and has been since November. Most people are on facebook now & relaxing talking about other topics. The main point I see is that we are all creating karma, and I dont kno
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QuoteitsnotyourfaultHi whatisacult and everyone, It's great that you shared that you didn't get a response from the NKT office, it's valuable evidence for others in their healing. We weren't the only ones who were given no healthy dialogue when the sheen started to wear off. As well as asking "What is a cult" you might ask "Are my thoughts and feelings val
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Hi all Im still in the NKT & feel a huge range of emotions. I believed when I moved into a centre I would be happy. And I was incredibly. But other people its not working for them! So I wrote this long document & sent it to the NKt office. I was told it would be looked at . But 12 months later Im seeing that my letter made no difference. My local centre is bordering on closing because
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Greetings I am writing a document that can be used to criticise cults and am seeking advice & ideas for editing it from former cult members. If you feel anything is missing or something could be said clearer please give me your opinion & ideas, thank you. I have been asking ex scientologists, ex brahma kumaris ex jehovahs witnesses ex mormons ex diamond way etc but this forum is by far
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True corboy thank for the ideas & thanks for coming tenzin I was hoping you would come! Corby those ideas are great & very true. Any group that doesnt do that will fail. Karma is definate. So this is my document so far feel free to add stuff & edit. Its a document for religious ethics with the aim that any group or religion can use it. My idea was we could all compose it together.
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I found this on the web & found it made very clear to me what is brainwashing. Its pretty horrible & terrifying! Anyway I found it useful its an instruction used in scientology apparently called the brainwashing manual. basically it expalins how to gain power over people & control ie that mind control is a means to life control, society control & ultimately world domination. H
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well I dont know the finances Im just an attendee Im not on the staff or admin. All Im saying is I havent seen signs of anyones living luxuriously but maybe others have. I dont know if there are any published reports. I just thought my idea might help.
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I actually went to a mormon church today. A jehovahs witness is knocking on our door harrassing my mother so I went to make a complaint. I was told they are another church. I dont know if that was true. Anyway they tried to get me to pray to god even though I made it clear that I am a Buddhist & had simply come to log a complaint. They also got me to take the book of mormon home. I know the N
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moderator so you dont think this idea I have has any value? It just seems like 99% of the discussion goes around in circles ie your organisation has this fault no it doesnt yes it does no it doesnt yes it does Im simply trying to get something useful out of all this. NKt & ex NKT are people on 2 sides of a fence. But both sets of people have seen various group dynamics A
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wiki probably got that fed up of the fighting. From what Ive seen scientology are using all the money theyve got to take people to court. So even when they read a wiki article theyll be threatening to sue. Wiki probably got fed up of the threats. My understanding from the research Ive done of the religion is that it is very nice to people who are celebrities so that the celebrities say the rel
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Well it is the responsibilty of the people in charge to ensure that they themselves & the people they give jobs are not acting like this yes. Thats why Im looking for a clear understanding so I myself could summarise the essential points. I dont have any job in the organisation but I believe once a document like that is made, everyone would study it including the current leader. Maybe they wo
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according to these religions most of use are going to hell. The main thing is to not be in hell during your human life too. This mental hell or depression. I dont know anything about Falun Gong but if it didnt work for you then it wouldnt have protected you from hell in any case. Im in one of the Buddhist groups on here thats listed as a cult. Its difficult I hope someone comes who can relate to
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families

Whilst reading these sites Ive seen a lot of suffering people & horrible stories about leaving sects cults groups. I feel like there is something going on with people & religion, especially new religious movements. This is another topic I cant grasp & part of my own spiritual path. Im getting feelings that something is needed that I cant find online. What Im talking about is there is
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Yippee I finally got on! request to ex nkt people Im a member of the New Kadampa Tradition and want to discuss with ex NKT people. I find the tradition works for me & Im able to accomplish the goals I want to accomplish so I could just carry on enjoying myself but that would be selfish. The Buddhist teachings are not written by the NKT. Ive checked each book & found identical translatio
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