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7 years ago
The Anticult
To test this, just take any unique phrase from any forum post, the older the better, and put it into quotes, and you will see they are not in Google. Example, search Google for this string "Byron Katie (the Work) and Eckhart Tolle Legit??" You will see that phrase appears in many other websites, that linked to the old thread, but does not appear from these forums. According to
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9 years ago
The Anticult
They are egomaniacs, who think they are special and even superhuman. Or at least they try to get their followers to believe that, often using reverse psychology. If they really were "enlightened" the first thing they would admit is that they are a fallible greedy crooked person, and probably renounce the con-artists lifestyle, and get a job. But they are self-promoting con-artists
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9 years ago
The Anticult
Gotta agree with that. Tolle is clearly an Egomaniac, ironically. And now he is a multimillionaire, and will only get much worse. And that is very true, Tolle is comparing people who have serious mental illness, delusions, and even psychosis, to the normal inner dialogue each person has in their minds. That of course is extremely false. Eckhart Tolle is a confidence-man, who is able to p
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10 years ago
The Anticult
Echhart Tolle has been explained and debunked in these threads many times. Tolle is just a self-promoter, who tweaked and sold his "Story" to make money and get "respect". Eckhart Tolle -- Comments From Someone who Knows Him skepdic.com/astrology.html
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10 years ago
The Anticult
As well, these days every Guru says they have achieved some sort of perfect enlightenment. That is the oldest trick in the book. They all make that claim, Werner Erhard, Byron Katie, Eckhart Tolle, Ka-Ching Hai, the list is infinite. Why do they do it? PAIN. The pain of the human condition. And the Gurus know human do far more to avoid pain, than gain pleasure. So the Guru claims with
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10 years ago
The Anticult
Its not known if this is actually the person stated, or someone else. But for the person stated, they are another self-proclaimed "NLP expert" in persuasion. Its another in a long line of Tony Robbins clones. The front page of their website is literally a paste/copy of the Tony Robbins material, using Questions with presuppositions to pace and lead those who are reading it. So in
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
10 years ago
The Anticult
By the way, the next time some fucking New Age Guru asks you.... ARE YOU READY TO BE AWAKENED?? A good answer might be...NO I AIN'T. - I am not ready to awakened to get upsold 167 products from your website for the next 19 years. - I am not ready to get spoonfed your obvious persuasion tactics. Then one might accidentally trip and dump their water bottle on the sleazy Guru who is tr
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10 years ago
The Anticult
Long ago, someone counted all the Eckhart Tolle products, and there were dozens of them. Now there are more than that, there look to be hundreds. And ET also is selling "retreats" which are meant to lure people to locations for that, where the upselling continues. ET is selling almost as many things as Walmart, and more than McDonalds! McDonalds only sells a few dozen things, Eckha
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
10 years ago
The Anticult
There are other threads going into great detail about the SCAMOLAS being run by Eckhart Tolle. The guys a salesman. and its false about the ET events. He has events, but not as many live events as BK, because obviously ET doesn't like "people" in the personal sense. He wants to set up a detached system, where you buy his DVD's and watch ET-TV as a group, so those are o
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
11 years ago
The Anticult
Another topic is Dissociation. A type of extreme detachment, dissociation and numbness has been reported by many people involved with the Byron Katie material.
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
11 years ago
The Anticult
yikes, that article is a mess, can't even get through it. The website is selling all sorts of New Age products. The website reads like Tolle Mach II. Creating confusion and ambiguity, and then link to more products/books/DVD's to confuse you some more. As has always been said, if someone is having some significant issues, like any serious medical issue requires a MD, then those
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11 years ago
The Anticult
The bottom line is that when Gurus say "enlightenment" is a permanent state...its a fraud. A lie, a con-game, a salespitch, an illusion, a fraud, a delusion. These Gurus are not "enlightened". Time and time again, they are shown to be play-actors, prancing around on-stage acting like they are special beings, and selling enlightenment. In fact, they are usually very screwed
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
11 years ago
The Anticult
Yes, exactly, the "mind" is not the enemy, its the exact opposite. The Demon Haunted World book linked to, can help with critical thinking training. Playing chess also seems like a great way to counteract the deadened mindlessness. Have fun, go back to playing board games one enjoyed as a kid. Take a college course on an intellectual subject that is interesting. There is no way
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
11 years ago
The Anticult
For a counterpoint, it is certainly not impossible to break out of the flattened-emotions that can come from the misuse of these techniques by these New Agey Gurus. They misuse those techniques deliberately, the same way various "meditation cults" have done for decades. In the olden days, even in addition to these techniques to flake people out, they would put everyone on a white-ri
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
11 years ago
The Anticult
There is a lot of falsehoods stated above about Eckhart Tolle. Having researched his material, its clear what he is doing. Tolle is ironically, an Egomaniac, who wants a captive audience to listen to his endless New Agey pontificating, and to send him loads of money, for his endless products. Notice how Tolle does NOT want close personal contact with his followers, just a one-way street from
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11 years ago
The Anticult
Its not permanent, say the experts. For serious issues, always see a trained, licensed professional. Person to person. For books, these can get ones healthy thinking back. They are at libraries for free. Feeling Good Handbook, by Dr, David Burns Demon Haunted World, Carl Sagan mindovermood.com/
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
11 years ago
The Anticult
Getting Tolle out of one's brain, is pretty much the same process as getting Byron Katie out of one's brain. BK and Tolle use very similar techniques on people. Byron Katie might actually be worse, but of course each person responds differently. Check out that thread, and try using those techniques on the mental constructs created by the Tolle processes. IDEAS on how to KICK-OUT (E
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11 years ago
The Anticult
IDEAS on how to KICK-OUT byron katie from your Mind-Soul-Life forever
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
11 years ago
The Anticult
Its very obvious that Byron Katie attended the EST (Erhard Seminars Training) and/or early Landmark(1985) which were "it" back in the 1970's and early 1980's, and then modified it, as well as combining it with other techniques. Note how the official fictional Byron Katie Story(TM) timeline has her saying she was "awakened" by a magical cockroach in 1986. Ever
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
11 years ago
The Anticult
Frankly, this thread was reading as a satire! Just reading the text from Swami...makes one go into a Trance...now...if you can make it through the paragraphs. Its the same thing being sold by Eckhart Tolle and about a million other Swamis, literally. Bad news folks, just detaching from reality and going into a Trance might feel good for a moment of release, but you are opening yourself up
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
11 years ago
The Anticult
Here's a thread on that subject. IDEAS on how to KICK-OUT byron katie from your Mind-Soul-Life forever
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
11 years ago
The Anticult
Its very common to feel a healthy anger after one realizes they have been duped and manipulated and exploited. Sects and cults try to make people feel guilty for that too! Cursing and doing what one is not "supposed" to do, one would think is very healthy, to break out of the system. Unfortunately the mass media has no interest in this, they seem to just have corporate interests t
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
11 years ago
The Anticult
You have described what goes on perfectly. Eckhart Tolle has constructed his HOURS of internet videos to do exactly that. Build rapport with the viewer, put them into a light-deep hypnotic state, and deepen the rapport. Then install post-hypnotic SUGGESTIONS to buy his books, DVD's, CD's, seminars, and dozens of his other products. Tolle now sells his own online TV-video channel,
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
11 years ago
The Anticult
Read down those threads on Eckhart Tolle, where ET is pretty much explained top to bottom. Also, the Byron Katie threads. Byron Katie is more aggressive but they are both playing at the "you are a flower" nonsense. By the way, as shown in the Byron Katie thread, they want to make people into wallflowers, as guess why? Those folks will then do what they are told, and buy what they
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
11 years ago
The Anticult
No question the Eckhart Tolle material can zombify people, its really very damaging material, similar to Byron Katie, and others. There are a number of threads here about this, with links from this thread. Eckhart Tolle -- Comments From Someone who Knows Him
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
11 years ago
The Anticult
Think of the vanity and Egomania and irony, of Eckhart Tolle setting up Tolle TV, and charging people a monthly fee of $15 to watch Tolle blather on endlessly. About what? And of course, he is going to be doing a softsell upsell of his other products in those webcasts. One gets the sense that Tolle wants much more than just being on mainstream TV. And if he goes on Letterman, one can take
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
11 years ago
The Anticult
The USA Today article on Tolle, is a PR shill-job, to market his Tolle TV. Note how they slip in how Tolle stays at a "friends house" and how he is putting his money back into Tolle TV and the "overhead" for lecture halls? Tolle has made millions, probably tens of millions since Oprah, he can afford his own houses, and probably owns his own private islands at this point.
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
11 years ago
The Anticult
Eckhart Tolle really has changed his website around, his logo is now called Eckhart Teachings. So its not about learning to be in the alleged "now", its about subscribing to ET Eckhart Teachings, and buying more and more ET products, and going to your weekly ET meetings at your local ET home gathering Group Facilitator, and watch ET DVD's, and buy more ET products. How many pro
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
11 years ago
The Anticult
Often mere mortals are completely blind to their own pathology. From a person looking at Eckhart Tolle from his public presentation, he presents himself as a pseudo-intellectual spiritual Egomaniac, who thinks he is a brilliant intellectual in that area. In fact, he's just taken others ideas, and repackaged them in a fairly pretentious manner, but it looks like many people want to buy that
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
11 years ago
The Anticult
There is a book by Guy Finley called The Essential Laws of Fearless Living. They even have an extremely slick and highly manipulative website. www.essentiallaws.org just full of all sorts of sales and marketing techniques. They even offer "152 FREE GIFTS". These folks know what they are doing, in terms of internet marketing and the psychology of sales. The book open with a list I
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