Below is an orgy of shilling for Beckwith & Co. The Official Science of Getting Rich (SGR) - The Secret Law of Attraction If you are a crook by nature, and enjoy lying for fast money, that is the business to be in. Literally. Just wait, when the hundreds and thousands of people start coming forward realizing they have been BILKED of thousands and thousands of dollars from the Visionary
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A new report about Byron Katie here: _________QUOTE______________________ I am a LCSW. I majored in psychology and graduated summa cum laude, phi beta kappa I am also a certified Feng Shui Master having studied under the top Feng Shui master in the world. I am no stranger to sprituality nor to psychology. I attended a workshop for professional CEU's at Kripalu in September of this ye
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This Eckhart Tolle is such an entrepreneur, getting his finger into everything, after all, he now has millions. Eckhart Tolle "advaita" Its too bad that Jim Carey appears to be going into the New Wage self-help business, since his movies are not working out. His wife Jenny McCarthy is pretty much the only celebrity follower of Byron Katie, who is peddling the same stuff, but i
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Notice the outrageous and absurd level of hypocrisy here. Solvejg posts here telling people to "leave the rest", and ignore the parts they don't like. While simultaneously posting a couple dozen rants against Janaki's experience and balanced viewpoint. Why didn't Solvejg just "leave the rest" of what Janaki wrote? Sorry, but this is the kind of blatant d
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That is exactly what these threads about about! People making up their own minds, and finding out the accurate information. Why not read the threads first? The threads are precisely about looking into the methods and the REAL messages contained in the behaviors and words of Byron Katie. The "leave the rest" message, is a standard reply from so many folks in this area. Why leave
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yes, that is a very important post. Eckhart Tolle clearly has become an Egomaniac wannabe intellectual. And its very typical that some people fight against the very thing that they refuse to see in themselves. And his personality, appears to be really along the lines of the Schizoid Personality Disorder
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Its wonderful the Guruphiliac points out the problems with some Guru's. And some of those websites attacking him personally, are from followers of Sai Baba, who Guruphiliac has rightfully criticized. Sai Baba is a flat out con-artist, with his fake magic tricks, and more seriously the sexual abuse, and local government corruption, etc. But why only go at such obvious targets? And why
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that's the magic trick! ;-) this is how you do it... You point to the most obvious abusive con-men, criminals and child-rapists who call themselves guru's, like Sai Baba. They become the bad-guys. But then you misdirect away from the much more sophisticated LGAT groups, who actually make MORE money than the old-school religious cults in robes. The modern so-called anti-guru LGAT g
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There are more participant reports buried here and there, if anyone sees them, then a cross-post would be helpful. regardling the links...one finds out very quickly with anything culty, that links often tend to be Disappeared very rapidly. One could point to hundreds of examples. there are even examples of books being bought-back and burnt and shredded! also, every website is constantly ind
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thanks for this. These people are just beyond reproach. Why are they trying to crush people's natural minds and thinking processes? Human cognition and consciousness is a wonder of Nature, its the greatest thing in the universe since pop-tarts. So why do they want to crush it? To create obedient followers. Hey, they are allowed to think, and write books, and sell their junk. But not y
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hey Don Shimoda... this is a very serious thread, about specific LGAT mass persuasion techniques, and specific sales techniques being used by folks like Byron Katie on unsuspecting people. People are getting their minds and lives screwed with beyond belief. Its very serious stuff. as mentioned, Eckhart Tolle has been debunked in great detail at these links. Eckhart Tolle is extremely mani
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There is another thread for Eckhart Tolle here. The Power of Now - Eckhart Tolle maybe its better to post about Eckhart Tolle there? but ET has been debunked, sounds like he read the Nog book too! Same story. there is no such thing as spontaneous enlightenment. And even if he had some type of a brain-stroke, then it can't be taught. Its interesting how for example, Guruphiliac ha
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In terms of covert conversational hypnosis and persuasion, not one word has been exaggerated. If anything, it has been conservatively presented. Those who try and tap dance around it, when they have the training and knowledge, are liars, or perhaps the better word is propagandists, as they know what they are saying is false. The reason most people don't write about it, is that they have
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oh yeah, all of these LGAT's work out their market demographics very carefully. They know who their audience is, income levels, etc. They even sit down and calculate exactly how many regular customers (followers) they need to live their desired lifestyle. For example, only 1,000 followers, at $1,000 per follower a year. How much is that? 1 million a year in income. or just 200 &quo
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and one other point...these groups actually Target specific types of people to join their groups. They try to target a demographic that is an easy sell. If one goes and has a look at some of the groups that form around Tolle and people like him, the basic members are basically just regular everyday folks, in the pursuit of happiness. They generally don't have any training in these methods
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one other point on this. If a person really did believe in the Eckhart Tolle method, and even some of the Byron Katie ideas, how would they respond to criticism of ET and BK? They would believe that its NOT about the Guru, even if the Guru was a nasty Guru, a scam artist, or worse. They really do believe its all about you, and your perceptions. So if you are criticizing a Guru's meth
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well, my view is the comments from "THE_DEAN_001" sounds like the Eckhart Tolle method. This is part of my view. In theology, there is the Original Sin, which most people now reject. But in the "advice" given, its another form of Original Sin of the Mind. People like Eckhart Tolle think there is something wrong with the natural human mind, the way nature made it. What
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Last time I checked, none of the new age media Gurus are Jesus or a saint of God. And if a saint of God, or Jesus was alive today, and they claimed to walk on water, then they would have to prove it, like anyone else. Isn't that just common sense? No one here is doing a complete dismissal of EVERY Guru or teacher, and are not criticizing them for no reason. If you look at the facts of w
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recently have had a look at a number of sources, involving people with brain problems, like delusions, body recognition problems, and countless strange distortions of reality due to brain damage from various causes. It makes one think of people like Byron Katie, Eckhart Tolle, and these "weird" new age Gurus. If you knew someone like this in your office, first off, they would not be
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1-800-SUICIDE in the U.S A suicidal person urgently needs to see a doctor or mental health service provider. Here are some warning signs you should know about. DANGER SIGNS OF SUICIDE: Talk about suicide Statements about hopelessness, helplessness or worthlessness Preoccupation with death Suddenly happier, calmer Loss of interest in things one cares about Unusual visiting or c
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There is a very very disturbing post on the Carol Skolnick blog Soul Surgery, about an apparent suicide, and a man named John Wayne Dulaney. John Wayne Dulaney listed his interests as Byron Katie, Eckhart Tolle, Adyashanti. This blog post about suicide, shows the extreme danger of these "bad teachings" of Byron Katie and the extreme dangers in the rationalizations that come from
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and a real licensed doctor is accountable, not like these new age Gurus who disclaim all accountability. Of course, doctors are human, some are incompetent, drunks, or worse. But that is why you have to use some critical thinking, at get a few opinions from different doctors. But Oprah and her show, can spew apparently false information about thyroid disease, and because its entertainment,
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another thing is Oprah seems to say she was depressed, and also taking 3 different drugs for medical problems? One has to wonder where the truth lies. It doesn't make any sense. On the other hand, maybe the Eckhart Tolle nonsense really started to mess Oprah up? She says she was falling into a depression, and that is what will happen if a person starts to try to detach and dissociate li
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Its interesting about Eckhart Tolle, he is published by Hay House. Obviously Hay House would do zero "fact checking" or anything else. Since its a New Age publisher, they basically don't believe in "facts", so whatever anyone writes is fine with them. For them, if you believe it, its real. Even the large publishers will publish basically anything if it sells.
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what's interesting about this, is that it explains how this system works. Some guy writes a story, that is not true. (in this case, its an older person, so most folks would cut the guy some slack for some tall tales...). But he puts together a good story, and it gets printed. Then the Oprah show hears about this "good story" and puts it on the show...no fact checking. Chick
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one more post on this, the Conclusion from the book, Bruce Lee talking about how to select a teacher. It applies 100% not only to a martial arts teacher, but any alleged Zen master, or spiritual guru of any stripe. It would apply to a therapist too! Notice how he rejects "magical powers" and expects people to PROVE their claims point blank. Also, I take note of how he notices how west
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well, I don't mean to over-hype that book, its more for Bruce Lee fans, just some of his notebooks from years gone by, for those who are into that kinda thing. But it also has some info on Gung Fu masters who are PHONIES on page 166-167, which applies to all this stuff. There are the fake "masters" who claim hidden powers just to make money from students, and lure them in, etc. Br
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happened to read a book of Bruce Lee writings called The Tao Of Gung Fu. Its a collection of some of his writings from when he was in his early 20's. about Tao Te Ching, Yin/Yang, Nondoing, No-Mind, Oneness, as well as diagrams on how to kick people's asses. Eckhart Tolle and Byron Katie also have tried to use some of that same TAO material in their products. But here you have a ki
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dropped into a major bookstore...Eckhart Tolle has more than 10 different products taking up an entire shelf. Salesman Speaks. That guy is a real old school huckster. Byron Katie has a new book called, Who Would You Be Without Your Story? they have edited it into a dialogue format, which is very crafty. When people read that, its more indirect and suggestive, and they don't realize
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There is a comedian Vanda Mikoloski who appears to be hooked in somehow with Byron Katie, Landmark, Ramtha, and Eckhart Tolle, and others. It would take some work to find out how deep the criticism is, or if its even a type of comedy-front and lite-criticism as a type of promotion of the LGAT enlightenment salespeople? Stephen Sashen, and other Byron Katie people also TRY to use comedy as a way
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