Things to Make and Do Go to Google. Type 'Eckhart Tolle' and 'Platinum' into the slot. You can do this just on the Google main page. Or, if you want to be precise, type ET's full name into exact phrase slot and the words 'platinum' and 'seating' into the all words slot. Seating is divided into bronze, silver gold and platinum. Read t
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SuzyQ, I appreciate the clarification. I suppose we just might have to agree to disagree about Eckhart Tolle though. All he teaches, as far as I can tell, is the importance of quieting the mind and being aware of the present moment. I don't know if the guy is enlightened or simply deluded but I haven't seen any evidence that he has tried taking advantage of anyone. The Oprah followers t
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There seems to be a debate...who's worse? Eckhart Tolle or Byron Katire? ET or BK? Eckhart Tolle is no bargain. He claims to be an Enlightened Master, and people believe him? He bashes the Mind yet claims he has an "intense conscious presence of the teacher". It is shocking that so many people seem to just believe anything anyone says. Just short speeches here. but th
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QuoteZorroYes! You've learned quite well! If an apologist ever tells me that I will reply: "I am really "positive" that if you don't take your own "racket" somewhere else quickly a situation will be "created" where by there is a distinct "possibility" of me putting my boot up your ass. I am also "resposible" enough that the boot
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QuoteThe AnticultI would agree that outright "supporting" Byron Katie is not the correct word. Its better expressed as creating a "distortion field" and more confusion around Byron Katie, and trying to minimize and deflect from the LGAT aspects of it. To me its not the personal opinion, its the deflection, and the bias and conscious distortion. That does create an open door. Y
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Here is a critical look at Eckhart Tolle's approach, from Steve Salerno's "SHAMblog": Tolle Calls. Part 1 and Tolle Calls. Part 2
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Shakti, I think you've made some good points in this and the other thread re Byron Katie... am appreciating very much your additions to this intense discussion. Thank you. :-)
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I would agree that outright "supporting" Byron Katie is not the correct word. Its better expressed as creating a "distortion field" and more confusion around Byron Katie, and trying to minimize and deflect from the LGAT aspects of it. To me its not the personal opinion, its the deflection, and the bias and conscious distortion. That does create an open door. In my book, when
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K, I checked out Guruphilliac and all the comments. I don't get the impression that he is supporting Byron Katie. He's actually said some very true and rather derogatory things about her. And, just the fact that he is critical about her is enough for me. Apparently, he's not been involved too much with The Work, so he's just giving a general opinion with the information he&
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"Shakti, not sure why you feel the need to defend Guruphiliac Jody...have you seen the way the guy deals with any marginally critical post on his blog? Just vicious personal attacks, and raging insults the level of a schoolyard. " -Because I like most of his work. Bottom line: if you don't like his website, why are you reading it? It is not everybody's cup of tea, and Jody
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Someone, i can't remember who, said that Tolle is not calling himself a "guru". I dispute this, having checked out his site, along with his partner's (Kim), both of whom are resident in one of BC's most prestigeous and EXPENSIVE areas. def: guru: "Weighty one," indicating a being of great knowledge or skill. A term used to describe a teacher or guide in any
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QuoteshaktiI posted this on another Byron Katie thread in response to Anti-cult's attacks on Jody Radzik and I will post it here with an addition.. Shakti, not sure why you feel the need to defend Guruphiliac Jody...have you seen the way the guy deals with any marginally critical post on his blog? Just vicious personal attacks, and raging insults the level of a schoolyard. Where is the i
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"Its doubtful this is about "friendship". There is solid information that some visitors to the Guruphiliac blog were referred to The Work coaching through this BK Insider, and then to Byron Katie School LGAT. Is there a commission there of any sort? " -What's your source on this? At this point, you are just flying off the handle and making up conspiracies. Also to
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Dear Anti-cult, While I share your surprise at Jody's relatively light treatment (however, keep in mind, his initial post was CRITICIZING her and he has not changed his position on that) of Katie, you are being inappropriate and attacking the wrong target. If you were merely criticizing Katie, I doubt that Jody deleted your comments. If you were ripping on JODY the way you are here, I ca
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Here is a look at least some of the problems with Eckhart Tolle's (and others like him) approach, from Steve Salerno's "SHAMblog": Tolle Calls. Part 1 and Tolle Calls. Part 2
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I guess it's that time of year again. The time when Oprah unleashes another phony guru on the public. I haven't been around much lately but had to check in to see about this Tolle guy everyone seems to be going nuts over. From the bit I've heard, it sounds like the same ego denying, critical thinking stopping, and emotion deadening crapola. Maybe all those people who didn
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no golfer, it is not amazing at all, the world is full of psychopaths who write books and run corporations without any regrets for the people they hurt! regards, shad
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golfer6716; it is not necessarily bad or evil that they are charging, what is bad is that they are selling "spiritual enlightenment" which in itself is not a commodity -- when one is truly enlightened one does not have to sell their knowledge, it is free for the asking....that is the truth, so when these self-appointed spiritual teachers teach these methods you automatically know they
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Quotejj52I wanted to ignore ralpher, but I seem to have gotten stuck on trying to make any sense at all of his erratic post. Anticult, corboy, skeptic, helpme2times... any suggestions or feedback? JJ, I think you are doing just fine. That erratic post by ralpher wasn't decipherable. Not unless one lives on Planet Katie. Shoot, I wanted to add, "keep up the good work!"
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Hi JackOscarLarm this "watching the listener" sounds really similar to what I heard at one of the Landmark sessions that I attended as a guest of one of the participants....in my opinion it is just more of the same old scam, and I would not be at all surprised to learn that this new Eckhart is a disciple of the other Eckhart of EST notiority. (maybe he is one of his children, who reall
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Oprah has been wrong before, if you remember the time she had mucho "egg on her face" after promoting that young guy who wrote a book that was a complete lie. I suspect that some of Oprah's employees have not done their research. tegards, Shad
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as I keep saying: " I don't have to swallow arsenic to know that it will kill me" Shad
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I wanted to ignore ralpher, but I seem to have gotten stuck on trying to make any sense at all of his erratic post. I think he's saying that I was giving "Too Many Details" by quoting George K. Simon's book. I notice that he put this little accusation out there in question form. I've seen a lot of people engrossed in The Work doing this. Since everything they say is su
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Quotecorboy1) "But my oh my... just ask a few questions of the "guru" and people get quite prickly. "So when I pose questions about her facelift, why does this provoke answers like, "Ah leave her alone. Stop picking on her. Maybe you're the one with unresolved issues..." "Stop picking on her". Folks, there is a double standard that one
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1) "But my oh my... just ask a few questions of the "guru" and people get quite prickly. "So when I pose questions about her facelift, why does this provoke answers like, "Ah leave her alone. Stop picking on her. Maybe you're the one with unresolved issues..." "Stop picking on her". Folks, there is a double standard that one sees again
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Guruphiliacs blog was really disappointing. Definitely a conflict of interest going on there. I'd like to take some time to post my response to all this "voluntary" stuff. I think Anticult said it best. It's just part of the game, but it amazes me that this is the point that is repeatedly brought up to try to prove that Byron Katie's School for the Work is not an LGAT
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QuoteThe AnticultYes, The Guruphiliac blog is bending over backwards, forwards, and sideways to try and rationalize what is going on with Byron Katie. Is the Guruphiliac blog allowing all comments, or only approved comments? Is there a conflict of interest there between Guruphiliac and Byron Katie? Who is it that The Guruphiliac is able to instantly call up on the phone and get this wonderf
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one of the interesting things about the comments from the Byron Katie insider at Guruphilia, is that the main defense is that everything that happens is "voluntary". Interesting how that was the exact same thing another poster here named Ralpher said? "Its all voluntary". Why the deceptive response? Were they trained to give that response by Byron Katie? Anyone who ev
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hmm, interesting...there seems to be some connections between a certain "Jody" at Guruphiliac and BK and another guy named Steve Sashen...all mentioned by Cosmic Connie on her blog. "Hey, Steven, I was hoping you wouldn't mind being blue'd...As for my snarking about someone or something you advocated -- specifically, I have made a couple of snide references to Byron
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QuoteeduardoHi Jeanne, Here's the answer to your question. A few days ago Katie put a link on her website about some event that Eckhart Tolle and Oprah are putting together in a "webinar" format. Today I was curious about it and went on to Oprah's site to check that out. After that, I typed on Google the terms "Eckhart Tolle Byron Katie" just to see what would
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