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18 years ago
Wiser Aussie
BREAKDOWN NO. 2 AT "MONEY & YOU" SUNDAY MORNING CHURCH & "THE HOT SEAT" I arose from bed. Yet I was dead tired. (Sleep Deprivation) My brain was numb and paralysed. Yet I showered, dressed and arrived at the seminar for a 9 am start. Despite my partner saying, "Don't Go!" Joining the massive circle of strange/familiar faces, we li
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
18 years ago
lightwolf
QuoteHopeThis week's line up in the New York City area is Robert Kiyosaki AND Wayne Dyer. I haven't seen Carolyn Myss recently. Perhaps they should be PGS (pseudo-guru station) instread of PBS? Same line-up here -- probably nationwide. Over a period of two weeks I think Dyer is on eight times here! Clearly PBS brings these people in during pledge time because they know people wa
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
18 years ago
Hope
This week's line up in the New York City area is Robert Kiyosaki AND Wayne Dyer. I haven't seen Carolyn Myss recently. Perhaps they should be PGS (pseudo-guru station) instread of PBS?
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
18 years ago
Concerned Oz
Wiser Aussie, Thanks for your kind words. I'm glad my research and expereince with Kiyosaki and Money & You are in some way helping you to heal from the affects. Your writings have helped me too as I now remember things i had forggoten and can now debunk the disinformation that I was exposed to through his manipulative techniques now over 15 years ago. Oz
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
18 years ago
Wiser Aussie
MORE ON ROBERT KIYOSAKI There is more information on the following Steve Braun website that exposes Robert Kiyosaki - WA
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
18 years ago
Wiser Aussie
Concerned Oz, I've been so absorbed in matters that I've forgotten to make a point of thanking you properly. I read all your posts for the second time recently, concerning Robert Kiyosaki. Obviously you know how he operates having done his seminars. What you wrote about "The Effects of Kiyosaki on My Life" is originally what motivated me to tell my personal account in
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
18 years ago
Concerned Oz
CAUTION: Kiyosaki is on the road again doing a 2 day seminar: Scottsdale, Arizona 18 March-19 March 2006 Scottsdale Resort and Conference Center - Scottsdale, Arizona Saturday - 8.30am to late, Sunday 9.00am to approx. 6.00pm The cost is $2,500 for the 2 days and is open to his graduates of Robert Kiyosaki's 3-Day Investing programs. (Pow Wow Events is the old Money & You
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
18 years ago
Concerned Oz
Judging an organisation or event by its fruits and/or roots alone can lead one into a false conclusion. Bad roots can produce good fruit - ie: the Masonic Hospitals. Given that our visit to Hillsong was in May 2005, I can't recall the Landmark terminology spoken by the pastor but at the time we definately noted it. The reason for its existence and the Pastor's exposure to a shared ph
Forum: Destructive Churches
18 years ago
Towest3
Hello Wiser. Thanks for your replay. I will like to see whole mess to be shut down and people to be protected by law from such scams. R, kiyosaki and simmilar greedy drones are responsible for dammages to big number of people and families. They dellivering misery , financial, emotional and moral disaster and on top of that scamers riping of people for good money?? Obviously same category of &qu
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
18 years ago
Wiser Aussie
Towest, How would you like to see him pay? I think it's important to gather as much information you can should you ever decide to approach the law or the media. It's better to be very prepared and informed. If you want to know more how his seminars operate read other posts in this thread, Large Groups Awareness Trainings titled - Excellerated Business Schools - Money &am
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
18 years ago
Wiser Aussie
MONEY & YOU Seminar Made My life Worse! .... IMPACT OF MY SEMINAR EXPERIENCE TODAY 1. Do not trust people. 2. Spiritual, philosophical and ideological void. 3. Aloneness better than being with manipulative people. 4. Still deeply hurt. 5. Ripped off Spiritually and Financially. 6. Innocence and belief in human kindness ripped away. 7. Feel psycholog
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
18 years ago
Wiser Aussie
Money & You Seminar ... What It Really Did! Causing Breakdowns in Many Participants! "Money & You" seminar used hypnosis and mind control extensively throughout the 3 1/2 days, without our knowledge or persmission. These methods were directly responsible for the many psychological and emotional breakdowns endured by participants. Saturday night's the "
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
18 years ago
Concerned Oz
Wiser Aussie is exact in his recalling of the events in Money and You. What he has written has refreshed my memory of many things I had forgotten from my experiences as a participant and assistant during 1990-1. It has taken awhile for me to read this thread and respond as I did not want to revisit areas I had forgotten - but now I have :) I have written previously about my expereince in anoth
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
18 years ago
Lucas
Aussie - You said The Hunger Project was promoted in Money & You... and that everyone was asked to bring in a donation of $100. Maybe this is naive, but are Kiyosaki and Landmark/est/Erhard officially associated in any way? Why would Kiyosaki be collecting donations for the Hunger Project?
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
18 years ago
Towest3
You see Wiser Aussie, when I am reading those segments from R kiyosaki book I have acurate impression that hi is very sick man. His big mistake in whole process is when he damaging families like mine... He will pay one day.
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
18 years ago
Wiser Aussie
"If You Want to be Rich and Happy Don't Go to School?" Robert Kiyosaki's First Book Dated early 1990' Quotes from book:-Quotep.67 In reference to Mack Trucks, "....mistakes, I called them 'learning experiences' and 'taps on the shoulder' because I feel they are messages telling me I don't know something that I need to find out. If,
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
18 years ago
Wiser Aussie
Money & You Seminar - Excellerated Business Schools Used HYPNOSIS, MIND-CONTROL, THOUGHT REFORM & PRINCIPLES OF INFLUENCE PERSONAL CONFESSIONS & "HOT SEAT" We were subjected to may processes that involved each person revealing PERSONAL INFORMATION in a small group setting. However many people were also subjected to "public confessions". Wayn
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
18 years ago
Towest3
Socalled board games are invented by croocks only for one purpose: to recruit fresh members in quick-to-poor shemes. I am investigating whats going on here in Auckland... every forth monday in a month they suck new victims in disater. It is hapened at some restoran at North Shore. My wife was attending to "learn" how to be millionare soon. I think those games are ridicilous nonsense ind
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
18 years ago
Gulab Jamon
Here is an article about Kiyosaki and his new game, "Cashflow". It is in today's Houston Chronicle: If you need a password to read the article, you can get one at www.bugmenot.com
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
18 years ago
Wiser Aussie
Money & You Seminar Presenters Promote Scientology "Auditing/Clearing" ASSISTING AT MONEY & YOU 1. I assisted at 'Money & You' that Wayne Morgan presented. As any other assistant would remember it was a mammoth task. (1). Removing and replacing tables and chairs between breaks. The room was constantly changed. As a participant I recal
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
18 years ago
Wiser Aussie
An explanation is in order here. The depression I experienced before the rebirther training was caused by my breakdown in a LGAT called 'Money & You' I attended previously. I didn't know what hit me. So the very nice and helpful rebirthers at this LGAT (see my other posts LGAT "Rich Dad Poor Dad, Robert Kiyosaki Exposed" andExcellerated Business Schools Money
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
18 years ago
Wiser Aussie
REBIRTHING CONTRADICTIONS & LIES 1. We, the student and rebirther, only needed to be half a step ahead of the person we're rebirthing. 2. Charge high prices for rebirthing or any other service because it shows you value yourself and skills. Charging low prices meant lack of self worth and self esteem. 3. We were special and privileged to receive the knowledge
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
18 years ago
Wiser Aussie
Excellerated Business Schools Creating Wealth Seminar - Rev. Ike Tapes Robert Kiyosaki & DC Cordova "Creating Wealth Seminar" is Part 2 of Money & You. Wayne Morgan played a tape by Rev. Ike and we had to 'recite out loud' over and over again, just like little children in the classroom, "I am a Money Magnet!" "I loooove Money and Mone
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
18 years ago
Wiser Aussie
EXCELLERATED BUSINESS SCHOOLS - EST/FORUM/LANDMARK & SCIENTOLOGY CONNECTION THE HUNGER PROJECT The Hunger Project was Werner Erhard's baby of EST, and it was promoted in 'Creating Wealth' (Part 2 of Money & You). I recall all participants being asked to bring along an extra $100. Towards the end of the 3 1/2 day seminar there was tremendous pressure to donat
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
18 years ago
Towest3
Thanks for replay. She refuses firmly any medication or therapy. In same time she deteriorating rapidly. Emotionaly, moraly, financialy she is just shadow what she was before. Her memory is reduced drasticaly. Brain-imaging studies are helping scientists learn what goes wrong in the brain to produce bipolar disorder and other mental illnesses. New brain-imaging techniques allow researchers to ta
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
18 years ago
kath
QuoteTowest3Thank you for helpful informations. I really hope your wife can heal and recover the best she can under the circumstances. Recovery is different for everyone. I wish her the very best! As she was adviced from cult, she refuses any therapy or medication to be taken. For bipolar it is worst choice regarding that illnes is progressive, not naturaly curable and in time damage on the
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
18 years ago
Wiser Aussie
Hi there Towest, Thanks for the information about the methods used in the Iron Curtain. Very interesting! If you feel strongly about going to the media then so be it. Perhaps 'Sixty Minutes' would be a good one to approach. I am not prepared, on the other hand. Eventhough I am still angry and hurt. It would have to take more than 2 people to convince me to do the same. U
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
18 years ago
Towest3
Thank you for helpful informations. I really hope your wife can heal and recover the best she can under the circumstances. Recovery is different for everyone. I wish her the very best! As she was adviced from cult, she refuses any therapy or medication to be taken. For bipolar it is worst choice regarding that illnes is progressive, not naturaly curable and in time damage on the brain is b
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
18 years ago
Wiser Aussie
Hi Towest3, Thanks for your reply. It's sad to hear what happened to your wife. I know someone who has bi polar. There are periods for her when she's really happy, active and out and about and then other times when she's severely depressed and sleeps all day. I really hope your wife can heal and recover the best she can under the circumstances. Recovery is different for eve
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
18 years ago
Towest3
Hello Wiser Ausie. Thank you for replay. My wife is afected very much in bad direction after geting in LGAT system. She was bright, inteligent highly educated woman 15 years good marriage, two kids, financialy excelent situation. We was good couple, soulmates and she was my best friend. After first books and tapes she became different. she start to talk about to became milionare in six months,
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