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8 years ago
liminal
Cody has been at this for months at various online locations, advocating for Ayahuasca Healings. He claims that merely watching a Trinity video helped heal him of clinical depression. Cody is an apologist for AH. I've read that phone interviewers are trained to get as much money as possible out of people, even from those who can't afford it. Scholarships aren't free, people hav
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
8 years ago
dabcult
CODY ACKLES...SAID UNDER MY VIDEO ..Just wanted to let you know i got a free retreat throught their scholarship program, and it did not cost me anything. Im sorry you did not look into it deeper, but you said it yourself, you push Jesus. God. As the higher being. Aya Retreats offered an experience to go into it with good intentions without being forced to think Jesus is your Savior. I am not he
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
8 years ago
dabcult
Great research Lumina . In my opinion its important that we get testimonials of people that have been scam and lost money to this little cult. I put those testimonials directly under my video ...If you get more send me a PM so I can post them under my video ASAP So far only one person as come to the defense of Trinity with a posting under my video and that is a guy that was admitted FR
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
8 years ago
liminal
Along with Trinity de Guzman and Marc Roland Shackman, Dylan Guss is an important person to bring to light. Dylan Guss is Trinity's right hand man. He interacts with customers, interviews applicants, takes their money, then strings them along when customers want refunds. He is also known to message critics in order to chide and hassle them. QuoteI lost 3500.00 plus airfare for two peo
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
8 years ago
liminal
jenann Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Paul H Dean aka Man Found Standing is holding > ceremonies in Ava, MO at his "Church", New > Haven/Sacred Way Lodge info can be found at > Meetup.com, which include peyote and ayahuasca. > This Weekend April 8-10. He along with Justin > Cluff aka Alphani Ryzon or Zerotize of the Rainbow &g
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
8 years ago
jenann
Paul H Dean aka Man Found Standing is holding ceremonies in Ava, MO at his "Church", New Haven/Sacred Way Lodge info can be found at Meetup.com, which include peyote and ayahuasca. This Weekend April 8-10. He along with Justin Cluff aka Alphani Ryzon or Zerotize of the Rainbow Tribe and some other name are holding a Shamanic Boom Festival (fb). Another website about this is befreeheal
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
8 years ago
dabcult
Dear Gayle ...so nice to have a pro on this expose of Trinity . As far as depression...I know all about it ...I went into a very big one after my beloved wife died in 1995 ...and as a speed reader I read a lot of books about depression and I was also medicated for years This is a very interesting subject ...who is qualified to diagnose if its small depression ....deep clinical depre
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
8 years ago
gayle
BTW, corboy, you also mention diabetes and pre-diabetes. Ayahuasca can increase the body's sensitivity to insulin, which can be beneficial for the pre-diabetic. But for someone who actually has diabetes, and is on medication or special diet to balance their insulin and blood sugar, increasing sensitivity to insulin has the danger of causing a blood sugar crash. Anyone with diabetes who is
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
8 years ago
gayle
Quotecorboy Gayle, is clinical depression a condition that can be made worse with ayahuasca? Hi corboy, clinical depression is one of the conditions that can respond most positively to ayahuasca. For both physiological and psychological reasons. In some cases (based on considerable anecdotal evidence that we have gathered on the Ayahuasca Forums) people have cured their clinical depression p
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
8 years ago
dabcult
Dear Corboy Very wise what you had to say in your last post TRINITYs gang is absolutely not ready to diagnose if any participants as medical problems....and in my experience many many will lie about their condition and mental and medical history ....they will lie about what kind of medication they are taking ...I HAVE SEEN IT ...just because they want to get that AYAHUASKA experience...it i
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
8 years ago
dabcult
Gayle said I like the status quo, that allows these small groups to operate as long as they are quiet about it. That keeps any of them from expanding or proselytizing. The trouble is, they vary in competence. Some are good at what they do and some are not. I was talking with some Santo Daime church leaders ....and they all say the same Trinity can cause lots and lots of problems to since
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
8 years ago
corboy
Gayle, is clinical depression a condition that can be made worse with ayahuasca? Years ago, a fragile friend of mine who had depression and was on 2 antidepressants and one antianxiety medication considered doing an ayahuasca retreat in Peru -- and even asked me if I would accompany her. I persuaded her not to do it. (If she had insisted on going, I would have refused to get involved - I c
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
8 years ago
gayle
By the way, I forgot to mention that I agree with you, dabcult, bipolar disorder is one problem that can be made worse by ayahuasca.
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
8 years ago
gayle
Quoteliminal Gayle, other than ONAC and its various branches, do you know of anyone else running commercial public ayahuasca operations in USA, similar to Trinity? Similar in New Age hustler marketer style? Not similar to Trinity in that way. There are a lot of small groups happening under the radar. That includes circles with stable fellowships, people who bring Amazonian curanderos to le
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
8 years ago
dabcult
Wow. That is great. Paolo Roberto is bad news but he is like a worshipped cult leader to many of his followers. I wonder how you could do that when those churches affiliated with PR are not even legal to start with? YES YOU ARE RIGHT (HERE IS WHAT HAPPEN )...CHURCH LIKE THE ONE IN VANCOUVER CANADA ...ONLY DEAL WITH PAOLO ROBERTO .AND HIS WIFE NONATA ..THEY DO NOT WORK WITH ANY OTHER PADRIHOS HE
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
8 years ago
liminal
Gayle, other than ONAC and its various branches, do you know of anyone else running commercial public ayahuasca operations in USA, similar to Trinity? Similar in New Age hustler marketer style?
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
8 years ago
gayle
Quotedabcult I was alarm when I went to Santo Daime ceremonies for the so called "illumination works "was practice and this with total NEW COMERS to Santo Daime Very very scary Spirits of the Astral using the Daime sessions to possess the body of participants IT DID LOOK LIKE ROSEMARY BABY POSSESSIONS)....and the Paulo Roberto ....and his son ...and in some sessions in the US and in B
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
8 years ago
liminal
I appreciate the Daime discussion, gives us some larger context as we look at Trinity. Trinity's right hand man Dylan Guss is now looking for experienced guides to lead day hikes in Pisac, once a week, 18 people at a time. Also "sweat lodge facilitaters" who will do once a week ceremonies for 18 people. I imagine Trinity wants to bring in some $ through this next round of re
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
8 years ago
dabcult
Dear Gaile ...you are not diverting the thread ...on the contrary ...you are pointing out some of the dangers ....as most people do not have a clue of that medicine and all it can do ...good and bad ...Our Santo Daime experiences can bring clarity to what could be a tragedy in the making I was alarm when I went to Santo Daime ceremonies for the so called "illumination works "was
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
8 years ago
gayle
Hi, trying to answer questions from the last two posts, not necessarily in order ... I'm sure the reason he picked Washington state was because the Pacific NW is a good market for this kind of thing. The place is only an hour or two from Seattle, Olympia, and Portland, all strong counterculture areas. I am told that marijuana use is discouraged there. As for how Trinity treats hi
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
8 years ago
liminal
I wonder why Trinity and Marc initially chose Washington atate? Did they imagine that our marijuana laws somehow would apply to other drugs - because they don't. Maybe Trinity views Washington as in a gold rush, and he wants to benefit. Maybe customers are more likely to believe his false claims of legality, because they equate Washington with "legal". Trinity originally ha
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
8 years ago
dabcult
Dear Gayle I appreciate so much having your expert opinion on this forum THANK YOU ...As far as the benifits of ayahuaska for depression ...possibly truth but if that depression is related to a diagnosis of being BI POLAR (and as church leaders who are untrained in psychology diagnosis ) you never know if the new participant is only suffering from depression or is BI POLAR) in my experienc
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
8 years ago
gayle
And as far as long-term effects on the brain, one long-term change that has been shown has been an increase in serotonin receptors, which means that if the brain has limited serotonin, it can use it more efficiently. This is safer than antidepressants that increase serotonin itself, and is one of the reason that long-term ayahuasca use can create permanent improvement in many cases of clinical d
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
8 years ago
gayle
Quotedabcult Most people who take ayahuasca ARE benefitted, some experience tremendous benefit and healing. From my experience, the number of people with bad outcomes may be only about 2-3%. I DO NOT KNOW WHERE YOU GET THESE NUMBERS ? Long term effect on the brain ...we do not know Well, I described my credentials for being able to make an educated guess. And there is a tremendous amount o
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
8 years ago
liminal
Gayle thank you for laying this out in detail. AH gets video testimonies from people who are in that afterglow and uses this to promote their business. Trinity may have a cultic hold on at least one of his inner circle already. gayle Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I'd like to add more about ayahuasca, especially > as it relates to cultis
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
8 years ago
liminal
Christopher "Trinity" de Guzman, his "shaman" Marc Roland Shackman, and "medicine woman" Franziska Hoffman are unqualified to safely administer ayahuasca, especially in the large groups that Trinity plans. I hope many of us do as Gayle suggests in communicating our safety concerns to the DEA. I myself am not part of any ayahuasca communities so I am relatively
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
8 years ago
gayle
I'd like to add more about ayahuasca, especially as it relates to cultism. Ayahuasca is different from recreational drugs and drugs of abuse, including alcohol, in that those normally make one feel good when one is under the effects, and then one feels bad afterward. Ayahuasca, on the other hand, is at best an unpleasant experience. It can be a physical and mental ordeal. You have to ha
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
8 years ago
dabcult
Dear Gayle Most people who take ayahuasca ARE benefitted, some experience tremendous benefit and healing. From my experience, the number of people with bad outcomes may be only about 2-3%. I DO NOT KNOW WHERE YOU GET THESE NUMBERS ? Long term effect on the brain ...we do not know ...what happen in the jungles of Peru Equador and Brasil ...we do not know ? It might be much higher .... I ha
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
8 years ago
gayle
I would like to give a little background. I have been a moderator of the Ayahuasca forums for twelve years (and a member a few years longer) and (besides living for several years with Amazonian Indians, being a member of the Santo Daime church, and being a member of a network of academic researchers who study ayahuasca from many different angles) have had a front row seat for many people's
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
8 years ago
gayle
Okay, I heard from someone with a connection that they just submitted their application yesterday. Quotedabcult I Know for sure that Trinity is sending mass email telling people that they will be able to be taking ayahuasca in America if they join his church right now ...for only his church members will be able to attend ceremonies .. If Gayle is right ....then it is a monumental scam ..by a
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
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