I Know for sure that Trinity is sending mass email telling people that they will be able to be taking ayahuasca in America if they join his church right now ...for only his church members will be able to attend ceremonies .. If Gayle is right ....then it is a monumental scam ..by a guy who cannot even enter the USA ...
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"

gayle Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I just got word from a reliable source that AH has > not yet submitted their DEA petition. This is very good to know, thank you. Back on March 8 Trinity wrote "We are working closely with an amazing attorney who is helping us receive our DEA Exemption." This and other statements could incorrectly le
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"

I just got word from a reliable source that AH has not yet submitted their DEA petition.
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"

This is the latest video of TNT Guzman Mostly in spanish where he seem to have promise this poor old guy(shaman he tells us ) and daughter to bring them to the USA to do ceremonies . He surely as not told them that he himself cannot get into the USA right now ...and that there are many people that will try their best to keep him out of the USA ....I also learn that he is leasing a place
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"

Quotedabcult for exemple I tought religious belief made a difference but you say No So is it only a question of safety ? The content of their religious beliefs cannot be considered in these cases. What the courts and the DEA can consider is whether it is a fake religion made up to get around the law. But that is not what we should get involved in. The DEA can figure that part out for thems
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"

U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) tip form DEA (choose Seattle as field office) Send safety concerns to: Joseph P. Rannazzisi Deputy Assistant Administrator Office of Diversion Control Drug Enforcement Administration 8701 Morissette Drive Springfield, VA 22152
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"

Along with reading through what Gayle has written on this thread, including: QuoteSafety will be a key point in the DEA's decision. If people write to them about the reasons why they believe Ayahuasca Healings is unsafe, that could make the decisive difference in whether AH gets legal permission to operate (and to open 50 more centers around the country) or not. Communication on these
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"

No 1 -As far as Gayle being a approved to have immediate posting ... whoever decide that should immediatly make sure she can post DIRECTLY she is a very important contact for this forum . No 2...I have contacted the US immigration dept to brief them a little more on who is that TNT GUZMAN ....I was told on the phone that the more people that make report on him ...and what he plan to do in
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"

Dear Gayle you that seems to know more about the letters of the law ...should post on this forum ...The main points that should be included in a letter to the DEA like NO 1 No 2 No 3 and so on ...and we can then take some of those points and and put them in our own words ...so that we do not waste our time and DEA times writing stuff that as no utilities for exposing Guzman
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"

Just wanted to add (since I can't figure out how to edit a post that is waiting to be moderated) -- the DEA is not going to care about how Trinity treats his employees. Safety will be their main concern. The issue to stick to is why AH is unsafe.
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"

Quotedabcult I am Canadian ...so My opinion might not matter to the DEA . That doesn't matter at all. They are not looking for your vote. They are not even elected officials. They will be looking for evidence of whether this is safe or not. Quotei would like to know what is the deal with Guzman not being able to enter the USA What I heard is that the border officials, after looki
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"

I am Canadian ...so My opinion might not matter to the DEA . i would like to know what is the deal with Guzman not being able to enter the USA is that temporary ...is it permanent ? How can we help to make it permanent.? Maybee Gayle ...or someone else on this forum should contact the US immigration to make sure he is out for good of the USA .And important testimonial like the one from th
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"

Hello dabcult -- 1) Guzman doesn't follow any religion, he makes it up as he goes along. He thinks that calling AH a "religion" and a "church" and a "faith" is enough. The DEA will look at that too -- they (and the courts) are not permitted to consider the content of a religion's beliefs but they can look at the sincerity -- whether the religion is just
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"

No 1 Dear Gayle ... What religion does Guzman fallow anyway .. Santo Daime is very Christian ...the name of Jesus is ever present in the ceremonies ....Guzman talk about Osho and a hundred other things ...there is no ONE religion in that guy NO 2 I think that if Guzman cannot come to the USA right now he will possibly organise ceremonies in south America ...and have people travel to PERU o
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"

When you write to the DEA, just stick to the safety issue. Don't talk about cults, delusional pseudo-shamans, fake spirituality or any of that. That is outside of their purview and would muddy the issue for them. Make it clear and simple, just talk about the unsafety of AH's lack of qualifications and say that it would be dangerous public policy to set a precedent to let just anyone,
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"

Luminal and Gayle as you contact the DEA ...make sure to tell them that Guzman call CITIES ..A REGULAR JOBS ...AND MATERIAL NECESSITIES HE CALL THESES THE BEAST .....That shows how much TNT understand about spirituality ....not much ...he is even a danger to school kids ...freaking NUT. and he want to open 50 centers around the USA ....DANGEROUS DELUSIONAL PSEUDO CHAMAN...I saw a vid
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"

Gayle, thank you for the correction and for all your work. I'll help spread the word about contacting the DEA and will write them also.
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"

Hi, Individual letters would probably work better than a petition. Of course, don't talk about the danger of being nabbed by the DEA or the police. The safety issue to talk about is whether it is safe to take ayahuasca in group settings under unqualified, inexperienced people. Now, we don't want to say that ayahuasca is nothing but dangerous and that it should be banned for an
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"

THANK YOU GAYLE I HAVE READ ALL THAT I COULD FIND THAT YOU HAVE WRITTEN ON TRINITY .. YOUR CONTRIBUTION IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT TO STOP THE MASS MARKETING OF CHRISTOPHER GUZMAN ..YOU ARE A VERY PROFESSIONAL PERSON IF YOU PUT TOGETHER SOME SORT OF PETITION TO SEND TO MR JOSEPH P . RANNAZZISI I WOULD SIGN IT IN A MINUTE ...I AM SURE BY WHAT YOU HAVE WRITTEN THAT THIS GUY IS A DANGER TO SOC
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"

Quoteliminal This was just published, a thorough examination of Ayahuasca Healings. The author initially wondered if Trinity and crew were just naive, now she believes they are deliberately manipulative. Hello, I am the author of the above article. I discovered this thread (and this forum) while doing research for it. I wouldn't characterize the article as a thorough examination of
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"

The most dangerous thing in the world is a child in an adult body encouraging people to use a drug of this kind. Ayahuasca and Suggestiblity. Quotehttps://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=ayahuasca+scammers Common are stories of female tourists who, under ayahuasca's stupor, have faced sexual predators posing as healers. A nurse from Seattle says she booked a stay at a lodge run by
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"

Ayahuasca Scammers - some recent articles, too.
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"

Thank you Henri! I just watched your video, well done. Your voice of experience is very important. Christopher "Trinity" de Guzman, Marc Roland Shackman, Franziska Hoffman, and the rest of the Ayahuasca Healings team are deceptively marketing ayahuasca ceremonies, greedily overcharging, and putting their customers at grave risk.
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"

I fully agree with Corboy. Trinity is an experienced persuasion marketer. This may be a form of a ponzi scheme. He rips people off, then gives back some money to people to keep them hooked, then collects even more money. This was just published, a thorough examination of Ayahuasca Healings. The author initially wondered if Trinity and crew were just naive, now she believes they are deli
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"

Liminal wrote: QuoteTrinity now is adopting a somewhat chastened, subdued tone and says he will reimburse some money. But everyone has to contact him personally through email for details, email is how he markets and persuades, so whether any wrongs will actually fully be righted is yet to be seen. Keep in mind that Trinity & Co will have obtained personal information about each of you.
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"

Trinity now is adopting a somewhat chastened, subdued tone and says he will reimburse some money. But everyone has to contact him personally through email for details, email is how he markets and persuades, so whether any wrongs will actually fully be righted is yet to be seen. He no longer is talking about Mexico, now he promises a new retreat center in Peru. Trinity also still claims tha
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"

I have been listening to this video ...and this insider from the cult as very interesting points of view...the guy seems sincere The brew cost about $7.00 per serving ...so a $1500 dollrs seminars is just ridiculously costly ..its a scam ...and TNT Guzman was talking about a retreat of 100 people at each ceremony ...thats $150,000 this video reveal that no one in those little leaders as
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"

Youtube videos educating people about the possible dangers of the fraud group Ayahuasca Healings, run by Christopher "Trinity" de Guzman (along with his fake shaman Kumooja Banyan Tree / Marc Roland Shackman), could be very helpful. Trinity uses his own sales videos very effectively to lure people in. Trinity's Youtube channel is called Ayahuasca Healings. A former insider says
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"

I was in a place a few years ago where experts where making Ayawaska i was whith the Ayawaska makers for 2 weeks looking at all the process of making Ayawaska ...sometime 8 hours a day observing every aspects of the making process...and drinking some every day as I was cleaning the vine First thing I learn is that there are not ONE Ayawaska
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"

I cannot think of anything more dangerous than a pseudo spiritual leader that says he can lead 100 people in a ayawaska ceremony....and guide you to the LIGHT I am a member of the Santo Daime church ...anyone wanted expert advise should contact ...Mr Goldman in Ashland oregon a representative of that church . it is extremely dangerous to take ayawaska if you are taking antidepressants and
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"