Guys, am not sure if this is just my foolish brain doing tricks, or if its truth.
I was reading Holly's remark and Hitch's response.
holly_golightly had written
When I think about the amount of chanting I used to feel that I had to do just to attend a meeting at work or have a normal conversation it reinforces how debilitating it was for me and how I created a prison for myself, with fear of what might happen if I didn't chant.
And it's entirely self created. Therefore, one can also break it down and escape from it, oneself, too.
Perfect summary of the gakkai cult org., "holly_golightly." Perfect.
Swear that as I read Holly's words "I created a prison for myself", my mind did a Freudian slip and I read it as "I created a person
As in created what seemed a true self, but was a counterfeit self.
I have done this to myself.
And I have seen this done by people to themselves.
Weighing out a counterfeit self and regaining one's indigenous self can be complicated. Like finding weeds in one's yard and having to dig them out and replace them with the plants one loved before the weeks were allowed to take over.
If a cult has dictated one's clothing one has to rediscover what one actually enjoys wearing. Its complex.
You are definitely on to something there, because I've made the observation that some of the gakkai cult members I've known, especially some of the so-called "pioneering" members (the originals who helped the cult org. get a foothold and start in the U.S.A.), had two separate, very distinct personalities. One, super fake gakkai cult org. face, and another completely opposite "private" or "off time" face. I've even mentioned this fact to some of them to their face(s) (pun intended), . . . . . telling them they are extremely two-faced, and asking them if they even realized it. They don't, and what's more, they didn't even want to talk about it either.
Those salaried "YOUTH!" cult org. "leader" clips posted a while back on this thread, are excellent examples as to gakkai crafted personality transplants (especially the David Witkowski clips). These kinds of hardcore full on Ikeda-bots, are a pet-peeve of mine, because I saw the same process take hold over other members when I was in. I even recognized it attempting to take hold of me and had to actively resist it. It's like a "mind virus" that slowly takes over; the degree to which it takes over usually depends on the kind of person it has infected (the circumstances that brought them to the cult org., how hard they've been manipulated, etc.).
That clip I posted again on the other page (here it is again, [www.youtube.com
]), really sums up the "Cults In Our Midst
" scenario (as per Singer's [en.wikipedia.org
] book). I can't quite put my finger on it, but there is something there in the cult lady vendor's attitude, demeanor and behavior, that just rings false to me. It's very subtle, but it's there. An almost "automatic", "mechanical" way, in which she gets the potential "shakubuku's" to chant the magic phrase (NMRK). [Keep in mind that this is a cult org. indoctrinated trick, where they believe that you have to get someone to actually say out loud, the magic words, and then you have made a "great cause" for their lives AND yours, by planting the magic seed.]
To me, it's just so manipulative and evil. The cult vendor says, "Can I get you to chant a little bit with me . . . . " "Nam-MyohoRengeKyo, Nam-MyohoRengekyo" . . . . . . .
but what they are really, really
saying, is . . . . . "Let-TheCultTakeOverYourMind, Let-TheCultTakeOverYourMind, Let-TheCultTakeOverYourMind."
In doing so, you do indeed create another person and self-imposed prison. Once one has been in that prison long enough (or for too long), they might actually come to even prefer that prison, over the real world.