It is especially sleazy when women are designated to inflict
physical violence.

People on the receiving end of violence are often shocked and confused
especially if it is a 'blitz' attack.

In the context of a seemingly Buddhist and mannerly organization
one has no frame by which to make sense of such an attack. One doubts
one's own perceptions.

Additional elements that add to the trauma of it all.

A) Women can get away with inflicting violence on other women. If a man
did the same thing to a woman, he'd be hauled in by the police; if a woman
hits or slaps another woman, it is dismissed as a mere 'cat fight'.

B) A man attacked by a woman dare not make even the slightest move
suggesting intent to retaliate. He's instantly assumed to be
in the wrong. Worse, he is shamed into silence.

C)It debases the women who are designated to inflict violence, because
doing so is taboo behavior. Once a woman has inflicted violence on
others, she has crossed a line. She too bears shame.

Final note: a slap is not minor. If one's head is suddenly
smacked to one side, this can transmit shock impact and
injure one of the cranial nerves -- a whiplash injury.

I once stressed my neck by heavy strenuous coughing and fucked
up one of my cranial nerves, causing me double vision.

Fortunately, this was temporary.

So a slap or punch from another could possibly inflict as
bad an injury or worse.

If any of the SGI "ladies" have long finger nails, all bets
are off.

A nasty slap can administer trauma inside the mouth if
oral mucus membranes hit hard against the teeth -- bleeding
from inside the mouth.

Anyone slapping you, even a female should be reported to the police.

If you go to an ER or a doctor, he or she is obligated by law to
report such injuries.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/07/2014 08:37AM by corboy.

Inspired by the SGIwhistleblowers site - if you really want to see the depth of the superstitious nature of SGI members, just try to wear this to your next meeting [i1.cpcache.com] and see what happens [www.adventuresinpoortaste.com].

I'd pay admission money to watch that show.


- Hitch

Spot-on corboy, as always. Points "B" and "C" absolutely nailed it, too.

Absolutely spot-on.


- Hitch


corboy Wrote:
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> It is especially sleazy when women are
> designated to inflict
> physical violence.
>
> B) A man attacked by a woman dare not make even
> the slightest move
> suggesting intent to retaliate. He's instantly
> assumed to be
> in the wrong. Worse, he is shamed into silence.
>
> C)It debases the women who are designated to
> inflict violence, because
> doing so is taboo behavior. Once a woman has
> inflicted violence on
> others, she has crossed a line. She too bears
> shame.
>

When a seemingly weaker person attacks a larger person, the larger person
dare not retaliate for fear of being assumed the aggressor

In grade school, I was harassed by a smaller boy, one grade below mine.

I had to put up with the little pissant's behavior; had I busted him back,
tag, I'd have been in the wrong.

And, it was so shameful to be harassed by a younger kid, I felt I had to shut up.

So, that is the double bind when smaller people (or women and girls) are turned
loose to aggress on others.

Total mind fuck.

Just remember Napoleon was just 5 foot six and despite being a squirt, he
caused the deaths of millions.

Winced when I read the comment "When a woman inflicts violence on others she has crossed a line. She too bears shame' . There is a fine tradition of women who are warriors in many societies, including the U.S.

Women are in the U.S.military in increasing numbers, and some of them have died for their country. I personally don't see them as bearing any shame, though I suppose some do feel that way.

Apart from that though, a woman, or man, who is using their position as being "weaker" "smaller" or having higher status to inflict harm on another who can't respond for social reasons is pretty despicable ( imo.)and in that case certainly would feel shame.

Of course many people feel that at the point someone is being violent, self defense is an essential requirement.
I am sorry your family wouldn't have supported you in protecting yourself from a bully, Corboy.
A bit younger or not, personally I think there's a point where that's what quiet corners of the school yard are for...when nothing else works you have an absolute right to protect yourself.
And if someone is trying to slap you, catching their hand and holding it for a minute is a good reminder to them that they are about to cross a line and that you won't let them do so.
Of course in some types of religious group settings, people are encouraged to take anything from the people who are higher up without responding or defending themselves.

Thinking a bit more about what Corboy said, I think that he is right that the shame of having been involved in that kind of stuff would be very difficult.

I think in many groups those who left after causing harm to others at the behest of the group leader have a very hard time working through this when they no longer have a religious justification for what they have done.

"Chant that daimoku
NMRK
NMRK
Chant it everyday
That's the only way
Chant it every morning
Chant it every night
Chant it with faith, everything's gonna be alright
Chant for me and you
Chant that daimoku, then your dreams come true
NMRK,NMRK,NMRK,NMRK,NMRK,NMRK
Chant that daimoku, that's the only way
Life is a struggle, either win or lose
But if you chant daimoku, you'll know just what to do
Do shakubuku, chant it everyday
Chant that daimoku, that'll get them there
NMRK,NMRK,NMRK,NMRK,NMRK,NMRK
Chant that diamoku . . . . . . . . CHHAAAAAANNNNNNTTTTTT!!!!!!"

[www.youtube.com]

Let's study a new word today, kids, can you say "i-n-d-o-c-t-r-i-n-a-t-i-o-n?"
Let's study exactly what that means, shall we?

Instead of teaching them what to think, how about teaching them how to think.

More than anything, this aspect of the gakkai cult.org disgusts me.

What are the "adults" in charge of this thinking?????









Actually, . . . . they're NOT.



- Hitch

The most dangerous situation to be in --
to believe you are of the Elect.

Persons who are convinced they are members of an
elect, members of an elite convinced they have
THE ONE ANSWER to save the world.

When you are convinced you of of the Elect

* You feel superior all who do not share this status

* You are an a mission and feel entitled to lie to
anyone who is perceived as an obstacle to The Mission

* If you are heavily indoctrinated, you are convinced that
slavery and servitude is actually Real Freedom.

* If heavily indoctrinated, you may be PROUD if someone says,
"But you are involved with a cult". You are proud because
being called a cult means your group is of the elect, and
and that all groups of superior people are seen as cults by
Unevolved People.

* You may be told, you are acting like an addict in relation
to your group and leader. You will be proud of this, you
may even say, "I once was addicted to drugs, but this group
cured me, and its a positive addiction!!!"

Problem is, any addiction stunts genuine humanity and you will
lie, to yourself and others to support even a positive addiction.

* You will sacrifice fellow members of the elite if someone must
sacrificed to win the cosmic battle

* You feel willing to be sacrificed if that is what it takes
to win the cosmic battle. Your body will protest. Your deeper
suppressed self will protest, but if you've been indoctrinated
and Believe in the Cause -- you will brush misgivings aside

-- unless you are very lucky.

Dear friends: in another section of the message board,
someone posted a new thread, asking information about
another Japanese group, Shumei.

[forum.culteducation.com]

Just in case anyone reading the SGI thread knows anything
about Shumei, feel free to contribute to the thread.

"A Life Philosophy for the Happiness of Humanity"

"Topics Includes (sic):"

"Indestructible Happiness, Human Revolution and the Development of Peace in your Environment."

[www.youtube.com]

When I was "in" the cult.org., these kinds of nice sounding, well-intentioned, cult-speak slogans always sat a bit askew with my comfort level, mainly due to their inherent slimy and gooey consistency - one that you can never truly get your hands around - a conveniently all encompassing nebulosity of terms utterly devoid of concrete substantive meaning.

From the outside looking in now, it all just literally screams out C-U-L-T!
Big time.


- Hitch

Notice the advertisement (above clip) for what it does not mention anywhere, because once you are on the inside, it will be everywhere.

Ikeda.

Happiness, Humanity, Peace, etc.. Sign up for these and what you actually get will be The Dear Leader.

I remember the days before it was PC'd into "mentor."

The cult.org had to change it, because it was causing a lot of cognitive dissonance among many members.

It certainly did for me, too. Every time I heard "Master in Life" I had a visceral wincing response that I had to consciously suppress.

The terminology has been softened, but the cult of the personality has been massively ramped up from my time in (his picture now on the front altar table, the member fan dances, more emphasis on the human revolution (less on the gosho), cult retreat trips (FNCC) with museums dedicated to him, the kosen rufu gongyo video broadcasts focusing on his speeches, etc.).

Bait & switch. Another classic cult playbook tactic.


- Hitch