Re: The Living Word Fellowship, The Walk, John Robert Stevens
Date: May 26, 2019 05:10AM
> Catching up on the last few weeks of posts, so
> appreciative of those that continue to share.
> Thanks to those that have kept us updated on
> Shiloh. In reading the articles it made me
> wonder who actually owns Shiloh? Who will benefit
> financially from any deals done?
> Thanks changedagain for reposting Saw Enough's
> post from 2013. So true! And also for reposting
> sierradawn's story, which is heartbreaking.
> Shepherds calling themselves Christians, yet show
> no compassion. Unfortunately, this seems to be a
> reoccuring theme. It was the first I had heard or
> read about GH or MH asking people to give JRS a
> message on the other side. Struck me as odd, but
> somehow not surprising.
> It saddens me to think about people that blew out
> and were treated horribly. I can see faces, but
> have unfortunately forgotten names. I remember
> being told when one guy blew out, he had developed
> 7 different forms of cancer. Bizarre. But you
> learned quickly that you wanted to stay away from
> blowouts. It was self-preservation, which, of
> course, brought its own feelings of guilt.
> Talking about the paltry wages at Shiloh and
> kingdom businesses, it was also disapproved of to
> seek any kind of government assistance. I was
> reprimanded for getting my wisdom teeth pulled at
> the University of Iowa Dental School, for free,
> because I was willing to be a Guinea pig for a
> dental student. I was basically asked why I did it
> without asking or telling someone. Again, the
> guilt was piled on. Don't draw any attention to
> Shiloh, to the TLW. So afraid of outside
> scrutiny. We can't be seen as not taking care of
> the "little people," when in reality, they weren't
> taking care of the little people. People cover
> things up when they know what they're doing is
> I know there were those that worked and had good
> jobs outside of TLW, who TLW was dependent on to
> bring the money in. I'd be interested to know
> what kind of pressure was applied to them to give
> their money.
> And a word about GH. He never had John's
> charisma. I remember not wanting to transcribe
> his services, and I don't believe I ever did.
WOW kbyne you asked some significant questions.
What many people did not know was that from the beginning "mandatory reporters" who were health care providers to Shiloh people and the public health department in Washington and Johnson county had legitimate concerns about Shiloh after they had clients/ patients from Shiloh.
Because I had a job and was from Washington, I was put into an awkward position as an employees and home town girl. A number of Shiloh people situations nearly got Shiloh shut down. I only knew that from the medical professional side as a credible person who had worked with agencies in town.
Of course, leadership did not want any one spilling the beans. Public health and health care providers had every reason to scrutinize why the patient they treated were sending red flags. I knew of some serious cases before I even met those Shiloh people who came in as patients. I was disturbed myself as the contrary to Christian values being regurgitated ( Washington, Iowa had the distinction of having the most churches per capita than any other city - very Christian.
Very awkward for me to be pushed to go to Shiloh then go work the graveyard shit. My husband "double tithed" my income. His family had already donated the family inheritance - my children had no financial stake in Shiloh.
Many local families put everything they could into Shiloh to build a CHRISTIAN conference center and church camp...so why did people show up to live at Shiloh not get the "Christian" memo? ( My conference is that the vision for the first donations were for Christina worship and education- is that what happened?)
My husband had always been encouraged by his father to double - tithe. Allegedly my income for 2 jobs was double tithed...a double portion went to the liquor store as well, in our case. The pressure was from my father-in-law, a "leader" who broke ground at Shiloh. ( I'm struggling how to word a statement I want to make from my position of being one of handful of people from the Washington church to be disappointed that the vision took an occult turn for the worst. I don't want to offend any one but I shared the feelings of the valued members in Washington that we had been invaded by people who did not share our wholesome values.)
The Dental College has always a good safe and affordable place to get dental care. Patients are not guinea pigs- students do not do procedures until they are ready and supervised. tho students who are directly supervised they are Mandatory Reporters. TLW did not want to lose their power and control Plus any stats like income for financial help would come back to haunt Shiloh - some people had their own weird-o ideas not even related to TLW and could not keep their mouth shut from waving red flags that pointed back to Shiloh.