I would like to be able to connect all the questions I have read so far. But WOW! it is hard to keep track of and not stay on all day and night.
I have more to "expose" about the "probe" possilby involving hynosis and a comment about jrs imparting his spirit by head to head transferance. See if any thing rings a bell for you.
There are some "tricks of the trade" I think invovled. Sorry to burst a few bubbles about feeling real experiences I am so sorry I think you may have been duped. I am so sorry.
Some time in the 60's the charasmatic movement was big on speaking tongues. ( Talk jibberish and everyone thought you were filled with it" This was big for a while in thes bless-in then I think they went on to intersession..
In Iowa we had many cross over vistors/ family from pentecostal who spoke in tongueas and were slain in the spirit. with many people going back and forth from church to church it was hard for me to seperte what came from jrs and what was left overs from another church in Washington county area.
My parents weren't that loyal. they drug us to too many other different churches as well instead of having time to get home work done and putting us to bed .
When I was very grown up and My father after he got kicked our of the walk he drug me to a lot of Pentecostal when ever I stayed at his home. He was always impressed with the holy spirit moving. I love my fatehr so I sat trying to be polite...I saw what was going on. My son was a martial artist potiley let his grand pa drag around from fake to fake. My son filled me in on why they touched people in certain places adn why some were really unconsicous with an orgasmic buzz
No matter what spiritual experience there are so common tricks any martial artist already knows. Pressure points on nerves.
I have a habit of watching and listening before I jump in.
I often witnessed leaders included jrs training helpers as how to the "opening in the aura to receive the holy spirit". I have heard that worded slightly different but the words sound so very holy a revelation from god . It has to do with nerves in the body. the fake healers use all kinds of tricks as well that gives an adrenalyn rush. WOW! Yuzers!
Keep in mind the allusion a magitian does to divert you attention. Music plays a part. So does the shouting of Amen and other spiritual sounding chatter in toungues.
I don't want to spell it out here. I typo too much. But I did find on link that reveals the trick with an anotomical image if you care to click and rad or copy and past the link
I think you may find it eye opening to say the least. Do not try this at home.
The author of the link made a point to say that preachers saw other preachers do it: slin in teh spirit for waht ever rason. Could be to deliver from the devil or heal. Because they wanted to look powerful they followed the leader.
Many, I do not think are aware that these are pressure points. These techniques can be deadly. I believe that jrs used his twist calling it " revelation" to one-up the other churches.
Any one who is skilled/ licenced in giving injections or shots have to know where NOT to inject a needle or you will paralyze some one. Are these preachers trained? Probalby not and they are flirting with danger.
My opinion. I have no word from god. I just got fed up with phoney balony.
My dad loved Benny hinn. He loved all the televangists. My dad was hungery for god.What fake they all were. ! I tried to not laugh when my dad wanted me to watch with him. Not JRS I know. but I also looked up an exposure on Benny Hinn. His theatricks are not too differnt from somethings that wnet on in the walk
I knew from being a church pianst what the leader on the plpit was saying to the organist or the elders. AS teen I did not comprehend deception. There were certain songs jrs, when visiting Ct, would tell Chritine to play and I folllowed her lead on the piano. The comments I would hear were "play this song we have to pump the people to really give in the offering". I wondered why not have faith?
New age uses the words 'repeat this mantra". it is the same thing that grabs your emotions.
There is STage Hypnois element. Trial lawyers uses this. I think JRS used. If you have any old cassetes and tape player you may hear jrs use it as well
Quote: Stage hypnotists, like successful trial lawyers, have long known their most important task is to carefully pick their subjects-for the stage as for a jury-if they expect to win. Compliance is highly desirable, and to determine this ahead of time, the stage magician will usually give several test suggestions to those who volunteer to come up on the stage. " un quote
From link: [www.csicop.org
In intersession especially if interssesion got violent I would leave to go to the rest room. Removing my self or feeling like it was not ok for my children to be there it removed me from the heat of passion.
I have wondered IF possilbly some of the violent intersession weirdness had what are now called, " crisis actors" Where some of our fellow walk friends were planted to start a riot while 'Storming heaven" or "giving birth" in the spirit. is it possible we all had "herd mentality"?
Just a thought. My head is full of questions that I have had for a very long time. Sorry for so much posting. I wonder if any one else has questions along the same line?
the internet is an amazing tool to find answers to questions.