Re: The Living Word Fellowship, The Walk, John Robert Stevens
Posted by: changedagain ()
Date: June 11, 2024 12:02AM

(close to five years ago--attempt at levity)

Posted by: changedagain
Date: August 22, 2018 11:05AM


I hope I am not the only one who answered the latest confidential TLWF survey this way. Boy, I'll be in real trouble!

Name something you have received by serving Christ in the Flesh
PTSD

Posted by: cultfree
Date: August 22, 2018 01:46PM


Hey changedagain. Is there a real anonymous survey going around? Is it being circulated by TLWF, or someone else?

Posted by: changedagain
Date: August 22, 2018 02:34PM


No, there is not cultfree--at least to my knowledge. But my answer is accurate, if that survey existed. BTW, I don't think anything was ever confidential/anonymous in that organization. Most of the time, from what I surmised, you were asked questions mainly to probe whether you were loyal or not to leadership. I don't think anything else mattered.
Any information you provided could and would be used against you.

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Re: The Living Word Fellowship, The Walk, John Robert Stevens
Posted by: changedagain ()
Date: June 11, 2024 12:06AM

oops..make that six

close to five years ago

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Re: The Living Word Fellowship, The Walk, John Robert Stevens
Posted by: changedagain ()
Date: June 11, 2024 08:37AM

The last comment at Jones's funeral:

"The really sad thing is that Michael finally learned how to breathe through his belly just a few weeks ago. If he had learned much sooner, it could have helped him in so many situations. Better late than never, I guess.
And before I forget, a big thanks to Michael's family for only charging us $39.99 to attend his funeral. The discount is unexpected and much appreciated. That said, I am bothered that we still have to pay for refreshments. Just being honest."
-Anonymous

#HumorFailsUnlimited

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Re: The Living Word Fellowship, The Walk, John Robert Stevens
Posted by: changedagain ()
Date: June 11, 2024 08:28PM

Creating room for each other:

Posted by: Aleutian
Date: September 08, 2018 08:33AM


Reveal, I agree with you. I phrased my viewpoint in a harsh way. I´m just trying to come to grips with my own upbringing and trying to lose the strange fringe concepts taught to me, while at the same time retaining at least the belief in a higher power.

To anyone that is agnostic or atheist...I respect you. I personally believe in some type of higher power, but you can believe in whatever you want and I won´t judge you.

Posted by: reveal
Date: September 08, 2018 11:16AM


It’s all good. :) Thank you for your kind response. One thing I think we can all agree on is that we have to have a lot of compassion and grace for one another here. We’ve been through a really damaging experience and though we all process it differently, we still share that experience, and so we have the unique capability to be truly empathetic with each other. Like you I am also trying to come to grips with my upbringing. It takes a lot of courage to find our own way and investigate what we really believe in, without someone telling us exactly what to believe. Relinquishing what I was taught was God by TLWF and deciding what feels right to me has been a lesson in trusting my own heart. I still believe in God, but I can understand why someone coming out of the TLWF culture would not. I don’t claim to know what anyone should or should not believe in, but one thing I’m sure of is that we can’t go wrong with love and kindness. I really liked what you said in your first post, by the way, about getting out there and traveling, volunteering, exposing yourself to other cultures, etc. I agree that’s so important and valuable.

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Re: The Living Word Fellowship, The Walk, John Robert Stevens
Posted by: changedagain ()
Date: June 15, 2024 08:08PM

Kidding aside, a daily meditation practice has been very helpful for me as I create more and more distance from the TLWF experience.
As I've mentioned before, I use the Waking Up app. Highly recommend:

[www.wakingup.com]

changed wrote:
The really sad thing is that Michael finally learned how to breathe through his belly just a few weeks ago. If he had learned much sooner, it could have helped him in so many situations.

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Re: The Living Word Fellowship, The Walk, John Robert Stevens
Posted by: TheJewel ()
Date: July 12, 2024 02:52AM

Having listened to the latest version of the “Oops, I’m in a cult” podcast

[www.youtube.com]

which has an interview with author John Collins regarding his research on William Branham, I decided to grab a copy of his book “Preacher Behind the White Hoods: A Critical Examination of William Branham and His Message.”

I can remember Branhaam’s name coming up during my time in TLW via RD Cronquist and others among the congregation. He was followed by some along with other Latter Rain luminaries like Bill Britton, etc.

I recommend Collins’ book for anyone wanting to dig deeper into the origins of JRS doctrine and teaching, Manifest Sons of God, five folks ministries, spiritual dominion, etc. This clown was one of JRS’ influencers.

What a character Branham was, crooked as a dogs hind leg. Involved with the KKK, The Mob, illicit liquor, etc.


There is a lot in here to explain our current politics, the NAR, etc. Same old shit, different day. So many charlatans and hucksters were spawned by the Pentecostal movement. Even Ern Baxter (The Florida Five, New Wine Magazine guy) gets some print. Another Branham spawn is Jim Jones. I think that this is a “must read” for people interested in this history.


Cheers.

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Re: The Living Word Fellowship, The Walk, John Robert Stevens
Posted by: TheJewel ()
Date: July 12, 2024 11:04AM

Meant to say Five FOLD ministries. Apostles, Prophets, Teachers, Plumbers, etc.

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Re: The Living Word Fellowship, The Walk, John Robert Stevens
Posted by: Reepicheep ()
Date: July 15, 2024 11:42PM

I agree, Jewel. Reading and hearing about Branham makes it obvious that John Robert Steven's "direct revelations from God" were actually lifted from Latter Rain teaching by Branham and others. It also helps to explain why we were told not to drink from many fountains. If we had been exposed to other groups and their literature, we would have been surprised to find those same apostolic revelations that were in circulation long before JRS spoke or wrote about them. It also explains why he consistently downplayed his involvement in The Latter Rain movement.

Here's a new Oops! I'm In A Cult podcast hot off the press. In it, Scott and Charity interview Rick Alan Ross, cult expert, author, and originator of this very Cult Education Institute website and forum. I have been reading this website and forum for many years. It has helped me tremendously. Thank you, Scott and Charity. Thank you, Rick Alan Ross. Much gratitude.

[youtu.be]

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Re: The Living Word Fellowship, The Walk, John Robert Stevens
Posted by: WhatARide ()
Date: July 22, 2024 02:19PM

Since most of TLWF lawsuits have settled, Gary Hargrave seems to be on the move again. There has been an attempt by some expats to gain control of the Grants Pass facility led by Lisa Lunqrist(I think she has a new last name). they lost their suit, but plan to appeal. The judge gave them instructions though on what they did wrong with their suit to help with their appeal. I've, also, learned the valley church is becoming more pro Gary and have been promoting some of his latest material. Some of the expat zooms out there are promoting Gary Hargrave too. I am very concerned about these current events and am wondering if any body on this site has more concrete facts on these current events?

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Re: The Living Word Fellowship, The Walk, John Robert Stevens
Posted by: Reepicheep ()
Date: August 10, 2024 12:34AM

Oops! I forgot to share the latest two Oops! I'm In A Cult video podcasts. Warning: May induce rage, cursing, and the like. Parts One and Two of Gary A. Hargrave's deposition. :^O

Part One: [youtu.be]

Part Two: [youtu.be]



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