changedagain Wrote:
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> A couple posts from February of 2018:
>
> Posted by: TheycalledmeJonah
> Date: February 20, 2018 11:52AM
>
> What a splendid idea! Perhaps we should also bind
> and loose the entire journey!?
>
> After last years trip (happened around the same
> time frame) SEVERAL services were devoted to
> presentations of Israel from the folks who had
> gone on the trip. Several shabbats featured the
> recitation of ceremonial prayers in Hebrew and
> traditional songs were also played.
>
> The whole fascination with Israel is not merely
> because it's where Jesus came from, but because of
> Genesis 12:3. "I will bless those that bless you,
> and he who dishonors you I will curse.."
>
> Maybe when asked, a congregant of TLWF may not
> respond with this. I wager that the interest in
> Israel is not because of its strong roots of faith
> and peoples general interest, but because of fear.
> They want to be buddies with Israel so they are
> not cursed. This isn't a native thought, but
> something that has been preached over the pulpit
> in classic cloak-and-dagger TLWF manner. This is
> the same concept TLWF members constantly face. "If
> I am not friends with pastors, I will not be
> blessed. Even worse, I will be cursed."
>
> I further contend that people's motivation to go
> on these trips is to have time with Gary and the
> other pastors in small group. Gary and the other
> pastors and celebrities to the congregants, and
> the poor congregants just want to be known and
> loved back and remembered.
>
> Last year, after attending one of these services,
> I was asked by my pastor my thoughts on the
> service. I wanted to be honest. "It was a really
> long presentation and I lost interest pretty
> quickly, to be honest." His response was "You
> fucking millennials have such short attention
> spans." So then I went back to MOWING HIS LAWN.
>
> Personally, I don't know why I wanted to be around
> the pastors (AKA cool people). They aren't cool,
> and the hangouts aren't very fun. I think I liked
> it because being invited came in the form of being
> noticed and being loved. If you're not invited,
> how else are you supposed to feel those things? If
> you're invited to another person's house in the
> church, you don't really care about it. Its not
> cool. Whats the point of being there? Maybe if you
> had gotten invited over to the pastor's house, you
> would be able to detect your status among the
> other people who were invited. Its all a status
> game.
>
>
> Posted by: girls_turn_it_off
> Date: February 21, 2018 11:56AM
>
> TheycalledmeJonah--you highlighted something that
> is such a classic TLW tactic: make the little
> people feel validated only by doing (unpaid) work
> for the powerful. There were so many times that I
> cleaned houses, made breakfast/lunch/dinner,
> washed cars, went shopping for, babysat for,
> transcribed messages, mowed lawns, made copies,
> etc. JUST because it would allow me to "create an
> atmosphere" for whoever my DR was at the time. So
> many in the Walk are so starved for attention that
> they will do whatever they are asked to just for a
> moment in the sun with their "Christ in the Flesh"
> flavor of the week.
>
> Gary and all of Shiloh U are totally taking
> advantage of people who want to feel close to the
> leadership. They are essentially selling the
> opportunity to feel like you have a connection to
> Gary or are somehow closer to the vessel of the
> word.
>
> ...But of course if you were to bring it up to
> someone you would be accused of having "position
> thinking." Unfortunately it sounds like this has
> always been a trend in TLW going way back to the
> days of riding around in the van with JRS or being
> invited to a backroom meeting.

Bingo, GTIO and Jonah. The most powerful leaders made it all about themselves. Looking back, how many things did I do in order to feel love and attention from JRS, G&M, and others? I did so many things to my own hurt, to my family's hurt. Revolting!

Back in the 70’s, in the San Diego LW church (Coniah Chapel), RD Cronquist brought a sermon titled “Would You French Kiss Jesus?”

puddington Wrote:
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> Back in the 70’s, in the San Diego LW church
> (Coniah Chapel), RD Cronquist brought a sermon
> titled “Would You French Kiss Jesus?”

That probably would have depended on how many beers, I had consumed:-)

Seriously, Cronquist was preoccupied with the sexual stuff. I don’t remember that sermon but it sure sounds like something he would do. I bet the tape sold well.

I remember making the mistake of bringing my then GF for a so-called “relationship checkout”. We both came away much more confused than helped and I am convinced he got some kinky gratification out of asking my GF some pretty personal questions. RD was a real weirdo.

Puddington,
It seems the SD folks got the duel blessing of 'The Apostle' luring them into the silver mine scam, and RD subjecting them to his deviant imagination.
Wonderful.

TheJewel Wrote:
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RD was a real weirdo.


Jewel, wasn't being deviant a requirement for apostleship?

Reepicheep Wrote:
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> TheJewel Wrote:
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> RD was a real weirdo.
>
>
> Jewel, wasn't being deviant a requirement for
> apostleship?

Apparently so but I didn’t know that at the time I was part of TLW. I am amazed at some of the stuff I have learned here.

TheJewel Wrote:
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Reepicheep Wrote:
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> TheJewel Wrote:
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> RD was a real weirdo.
>
>
> Jewel, wasn't being deviant a requirement for
> apostleship?

Apparently so but I didn’t know that at the time I was part of TLW. I am amazed at some of the stuff I have learned here.

Jewel,

Exactly!

This was posted on the further discussion of The Living Word FB group today:

"So apparently the Shiloh property was sold to a developer. Its annexation in to the city of Kalona is just a city limit/services/property tax thing...it is not owned by the city. The land is now privately owned by the developer.
Did anyone know about this?
I didn’t see what the sale price is, but it may be public record."

Has anyone heard anything about this?

(Shiloh Church Directors: Craig Haworth, Steve Rich, Ron Caquelin)



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I wonder if it was disclosed to the developer that he was purchasing the center of the universe, and if so, whether this had any impact on the selling price.

And you can bet that the Shiloh church directors have a back channel to send the funds to Gary Hargrave.