Re: The Living Word Fellowship, The Walk, John Robert Stevens
Date: June 08, 2020 01:19AM
> A couple posts from February of 2018:
> Posted by: TheycalledmeJonah
> Date: February 20, 2018 11:52AM
> What a splendid idea! Perhaps we should also bind
> and loose the entire journey!?
> After last years trip (happened around the same
> time frame) SEVERAL services were devoted to
> presentations of Israel from the folks who had
> gone on the trip. Several shabbats featured the
> recitation of ceremonial prayers in Hebrew and
> traditional songs were also played.
> The whole fascination with Israel is not merely
> because it's where Jesus came from, but because of
> Genesis 12:3. "I will bless those that bless you,
> and he who dishonors you I will curse.."
> Maybe when asked, a congregant of TLWF may not
> respond with this. I wager that the interest in
> Israel is not because of its strong roots of faith
> and peoples general interest, but because of fear.
> They want to be buddies with Israel so they are
> not cursed. This isn't a native thought, but
> something that has been preached over the pulpit
> in classic cloak-and-dagger TLWF manner. This is
> the same concept TLWF members constantly face. "If
> I am not friends with pastors, I will not be
> blessed. Even worse, I will be cursed."
> I further contend that people's motivation to go
> on these trips is to have time with Gary and the
> other pastors in small group. Gary and the other
> pastors and celebrities to the congregants, and
> the poor congregants just want to be known and
> loved back and remembered.
> Last year, after attending one of these services,
> I was asked by my pastor my thoughts on the
> service. I wanted to be honest. "It was a really
> long presentation and I lost interest pretty
> quickly, to be honest." His response was "You
> fucking millennials have such short attention
> spans." So then I went back to MOWING HIS LAWN.
> Personally, I don't know why I wanted to be around
> the pastors (AKA cool people). They aren't cool,
> and the hangouts aren't very fun. I think I liked
> it because being invited came in the form of being
> noticed and being loved. If you're not invited,
> how else are you supposed to feel those things? If
> you're invited to another person's house in the
> church, you don't really care about it. Its not
> cool. Whats the point of being there? Maybe if you
> had gotten invited over to the pastor's house, you
> would be able to detect your status among the
> other people who were invited. Its all a status
> Posted by: girls_turn_it_off
> Date: February 21, 2018 11:56AM
> TheycalledmeJonah--you highlighted something that
> is such a classic TLW tactic: make the little
> people feel validated only by doing (unpaid) work
> for the powerful. There were so many times that I
> cleaned houses, made breakfast/lunch/dinner,
> washed cars, went shopping for, babysat for,
> transcribed messages, mowed lawns, made copies,
> etc. JUST because it would allow me to "create an
> atmosphere" for whoever my DR was at the time. So
> many in the Walk are so starved for attention that
> they will do whatever they are asked to just for a
> moment in the sun with their "Christ in the Flesh"
> flavor of the week.
> Gary and all of Shiloh U are totally taking
> advantage of people who want to feel close to the
> leadership. They are essentially selling the
> opportunity to feel like you have a connection to
> Gary or are somehow closer to the vessel of the
> ...But of course if you were to bring it up to
> someone you would be accused of having "position
> thinking." Unfortunately it sounds like this has
> always been a trend in TLW going way back to the
> days of riding around in the van with JRS or being
> invited to a backroom meeting.
Bingo, GTIO and Jonah. The most powerful leaders made it all about themselves. Looking back, how many things did I do in order to feel love and attention from JRS, G&M, and others? I did so many things to my own hurt, to my family's hurt. Revolting!