Re: The Living Word Fellowship, The Walk, John Robert Stevens
Posted by: changedagain ()
Date: December 21, 2019 02:38AM

kBOY Wrote:

> Just yesterday, I was reflecting on the hubris of
> MH to declare herself the 'Lamp of
> Israel'
(and I apologize for having previously
> used 'Tramp of Israel'--name-calling is not
> my style) when there was little to no evidence
> that she spoke for GOD at all. It wasn't her
> voice we all heard on cassettes or CDs for
> decades, except when she would occasionally ramble
> at some service.

ramblin' ministry :)

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Re: The Living Word Fellowship, The Walk, John Robert Stevens
Posted by: Reepicheep ()
Date: December 21, 2019 09:52PM

Looking around these forums is sad. A reality test of groups like those represented here could best be summed up with something I said during the last few years before leaving TLWF. People are not God. It was not well-received.

And the corollary: If a person tells you to treat them like God, they do not have your best interests at heart. It sounds simple enough when you have not had your mind manipulated by narcissistic leaders since childhood.

Thankfully, this forum and others like it are freely available on the internet to those brave enough to read and engage in some reasoned, objective analysis.



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Re: The Living Word Fellowship, The Walk, John Robert Stevens
Posted by: kBOY ()
Date: December 21, 2019 10:18PM

'Call no wo/man Father/Mother.' (NEW DAY translation)

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Re: The Living Word Fellowship, The Walk, John Robert Stevens
Posted by: Cloudwatcher ()
Date: December 22, 2019 12:48AM

Reepicheep Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Looking around these forums is sad. A reality test
> of groups like those represented here could best
> be summed up with something I said during the last
> few years before leaving TLWF. People are not
> God.
It was not well-received.
>
> And the corollary: If a person tells you to
> treat them like God, they do not have your best
> interests at heart.
It sounds simple enough
> when you have not had your mind manipulated by
> narcissistic leaders since childhood.
>
> Thankfully, this forum and others like it are
> freely available on the internet to those brave
> enough to read and engage in some reasoned,
> objective analysis.

It is really sad. If you look at people still clinging to G-man, it is clear. He is a pathetic little man who cares nothing about any of them. But he will make them think he does when he couldn't give any of them the time of day before October 25, 2018. Otherwise intelligent people whose minds are not their own even after evidence that should have been convincing. It is devastating that this can happen and did happen. Just so incredibly sad that our lives were offered up to such horrible, not even human, bloodsuckers.

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Re: The Living Word Fellowship, The Walk, John Robert Stevens
Posted by: changedagain ()
Date: December 22, 2019 01:33AM

True, Cloudwatcher. It is sad.

'You’ll Worry Less About What People Think of You When You Realize How Seldom They Do'

This adage certainly applies to Hargrave. Even when feigning concern and backing a gesture of goodwill--such as the authorized 'Thinking of You' pre-printed birthday cards sent out years ago--it is but a hollow effort. If he is reaching out to people now, it's most likely to support his need to counter the flood of truthful allegations that have surfaced online by ex-members of the church. It's important that he have backers that can validate his "ministry." Unfortunately, there are probably those who still desperately seek his approval and will unwittingly allow themselves to be used again to promote his interests.

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Re: The Living Word Fellowship, The Walk, John Robert Stevens
Posted by: kBOY ()
Date: December 22, 2019 04:19AM

C H A N G E D


"Unfortunately, there are probably those who still desperately seek his approval and will unwittingly allow themselves to be used again to promote his interests."

They will never see it that way--unless they finally have an epiphany. Then they can pick up whatever life they have left, if it hasn't already been taken from them.

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Re: The Living Word Fellowship, The Walk, John Robert Stevens
Posted by: Northerngate ()
Date: December 22, 2019 09:44AM

You know something... I just really love people. I hope your Christmas is comforting and safe. I want you to know I really think about all of you that have been so inviting to me. Thank you. I wish with all my heart that we will all find peace, hope and healing. I hope you understand the depth of my care.
Melissa Saulnier - Northern Gate

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Re: The Living Word Fellowship, The Walk, John Robert Stevens
Posted by: Reepicheep ()
Date: December 22, 2019 10:55AM

Northerngate...Melissa, Your good wishes are very much appreciated. I also wish peace and healing for you and for all of us.

And for people reading who are confused or don't know what to think, I wish you a miraculous epiphany. There really is more to life than serfdom to a religious feudal lord.

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Re: The Living Word Fellowship, The Walk, John Robert Stevens
Posted by: Onion ()
Date: December 22, 2019 12:37PM

Thank you, Melissa. And thank you, Reepicheep.

I was around some people a few weeks ago who are still caught up in the religious, convincing deception being produced by former leaders like Hargrave and his minions. I am also exposed to a lot of political information that shows me how people are also still caught up in believing that the current President is a good Christian. And I am really burdened for these people. Change is hard. I pray for them to find answers so they stop providing energy to awful, self-serving men and women.

I'll repeat that. Change is hard.

All you have to do is listen to any of the thousands of stories of abused women who were afraid of the change necessary to escape abusive relationships. Or I guess we need look no further than our own stories of being caught in the TLWF trap for 20, 30, 40 years.

Change is hard. But change is GOOD. Making the hard steps, doing the work, is SO rewarding and opens the door to a future that continues to be rewarding and fulfilling on a daily basis. I hope all the caged birds recognize the open door and FLY. My wish for 2020.

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Re: The Living Word Fellowship, The Walk, John Robert Stevens
Posted by: changedagain ()
Date: December 22, 2019 10:19PM

Thank you, Onion--I agree.

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