GoingRogue re-posted a Post by Onion on August 07, 2018 09:35AM and made some good comments.
I think this entire thread is worth reviewing and valuable to any newbies who have not be able read and digest all 1,000+ pages.
We've asked the question over and over as to why the Hargraves and other TLWF leaders did not stop the abuses, but, went to great lengths to cover up criminal acts.
We on this forum who have been labeled by the Walk as "blow outs" or Jezebels or labeled some other biblical bad ass name have been sharing puzzles pieces of the tangled web of deceit of The church of the Living word founded as a cult under John Robert Stevens. At his death, JRS former mistress and 2nd wife Marilyn Holbroook Stevens and her lover, a married man were at the time were allegedly passed the proverbial mantle of the kingdom from JRS death bed.
The Hargraves amassed more wealth at the expense of the people who gave from their hearts and sacrificed every thing for the sake of Jesus Kingdom on Earth.
We forum members claim in good faith from what we personally witnessed this was a huge fraud. A long side the fraud were untold amounts of sexual abuses. It is horrifying to note that Marilyn's son was among the serial abusers yet nothing was done to stop him- only set up more innocent victims then covered a it up.
I personally state from my training as a mandatory reporter and having spoken with JRS and other leaders in the 1970 and '80's that something has to be done about the situations I knew about. Speaking to the leadership got me verbally sh*t on. They were dead wrong. As a professional I knew it - I "escaped" knowing that I was beating my head against a brick wall and my family was not safe.
This part of the discussion thread talks about the issues of TLWF leadership trying to avoid the law by not doing their legal duty of reporting abuses.
> Onion Wrote:
> > Mandatory Reporters include every level
> > imageineable of school employees.
> > In 1963 mental health professionals became
> > mandated reporters and that was all. As the
> > went by, the law was amended MANY times to
> > every other type of professional that might
> > into knowledge of, or reasonably suspecr, child
> > abuse. INCLUDING THE CLERGY.
> > I am not sure when Clergy were added to the
> > of mandated reporters but I DO remember the
> > reaction of the walk church leaders
> > G&M). I estimate it was in the late 80's or
> > 90's because I was still working in legal stuff
> > with Dan Statton.
> > Gary wanted to know if the walk ministries
> > avoid this requirement under the
> > privilege exercised by the Catholic church to
> > protect them from having to communicate what
> > heard in the confessional. I believe G&M had
> > gotten some legal input that yes, the church
> > ministries would be protected from having to
> > report what was learned in the form of a
> > confession.
> > But I did some research and I don't think that
> > argument would ever hold up for the walk
> > ministries because the methods and
> > were so helter skelter. The requirements under
> > the clergy-penitent privilege are very tight
> > very strict.
> > The walk churches response to this issue was to
> > officially/formally ordain everyone they could
> > think of so that those people could claim
> > privilege and not be "confused" about what they
> > might have heard or about their responsibility
> > report various issues to the authorities.
> > This was very confusing to me back then
> > sadly, I think I have a better understanding
> > for what the motivation was at that time. Now
> > not confused, just deeply disgusted.
> > I have a pamphlet that describes California's
> > mandatory reporting laws. This pamphlet is
> > 2013 so the law may have been amended since
> > but I believe every time the law is amended it
> > done for the purpose of making the requirement
> > more strict and far reaching. It is too large
> > attach here but I will see if I can shorten it
> > down so I can share it on this forum.
> > I wonder what the policy is in the COL school.
> I have to say that this new revelation is shocking
> and digusting. Mandatory reporting is for
> reporting various kinds of abuse of children and
> others. I'm having a hard time understanding the
> purpose of not wanting to report known abusers.
> Possibly they wanted abusers to confess. The
> information could then be used to control those
> people? Or they would have had to report too many
> pastors and apostles? Or it could have made the
> church look bad in some way? I'm at a loss.
NancyB, my opinion in reply August 07, 2018 12:52PM has a link to some good information on Mandatory reporter. I highly suggest any one simply reading the forum and questioning the members concerns - maybe not wanting to trust us, to please research a bit on child abuse and Mandatory Reporting on your own then ask question of the people still in your groups. This issue is NOT the twisted 'Spiritual Assault' against Hargraves and Holbrook that has been denied by TLWF. It is the law.
I hope you read this link and I'd love your feedback on whether my thoughts seems to fit the bill . Please note the act of " omission".
Here's a clickable link for Iowa. the law has been updated a number of times over the years. [www.lawserver.com
Should it be mandatory to report suspected child abuse? Please note the laws vary from state to state somewhat. Shiloh 'was' in Iowa.
Although anyone can report child abuse and are encouraged to do so, mandatory reporters are required by law to make a report of suspected child abuse within 24 hours of becoming aware of the concern(s). If a child is in imminent danger, CALL 911 immediately.
Mandatory Reporter Information | Iowa Department of Human ...
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