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Re: bipolar or mood swings caused by the cult
Posted by: Sulalee ()
Date: May 25, 2008 10:15AM

I have read elsewhere that for single women, involvement in Landmark has an underlying wish for finding a partner. This, however, almost never happens, and if it does, it is short-lived. I know my friend hooked up with several guys from her Landmark group, but nothing really went beyond that. Also, the other thing that happens is that people involved in LM tend to drag their partners into it. It is probably the single most destructive thing they could do to a relationship.

Of course, LM will say, "LM is not a dating service." Or, "People need to use their common sense when asking their partners to do the Forum."

In fact, for my friend I know that at least one potentially serious relationship vaporized when she sent her mate to the Forum.

Interesting topic, though...

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Re: bipolar or mood swings caused by the cult
Posted by: Zorro ()
Date: May 25, 2008 11:07AM

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Europe-girl
Hmm Zorro, you could argue that all this "communication stuff" and happy clappy feeling business, brings men further away from their core then it does for women. But that is based on the idea men-Mars / women-Venus.
You could also argue that people heavily involved with LM (which is true for people in assisting programmes) are more stressed out then average, more sleep depraved, have more anxiety and feelings of guilt. Looks like a libido killer to me.
Furthermore if you take on the approach that people who are heavily involved are actually addicted to the adrenaline rush of having breakthroughs, as with any addiction there is little room for anything else. People addicted to drugs, alcohol, gambling and so forth also have a dimineshed sex life, no?

And yeah, if you ask about viagra you would get a conversation for resolving breakdowns, LOL.

I agree with you Europe-girl. That's probably a large part of the reason for diminished libido. All of the things you mentioned affects it. All of those things are found in Landmark.

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Re: bipolar or mood swings caused by the cult
Posted by: Zorro ()
Date: May 25, 2008 11:16AM

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Sulalee
I have read elsewhere that for single women, involvement in Landmark has an underlying wish for finding a partner. This, however, almost never happens, and if it does, it is short-lived. I know my friend hooked up with several guys from her Landmark group, but nothing really went beyond that. Also, the other thing that happens is that people involved in LM tend to drag their partners into it. It is probably the single most destructive thing they could do to a relationship.

Of course, LM will say, "LM is not a dating service." Or, "People need to use their common sense when asking their partners to do the Forum."

In fact, for my friend I know that at least one potentially serious relationship vaporized when she sent her mate to the Forum.

Interesting topic, though...

Your right about the underlying wish of single women in Landmark wanting to find a partner. I knew several single women in there that wanted a partner. None of them were successful at it. Of course when they found someone outside of Landmark they tried to recruit the guy. The person that got me into Landmark and convinced me to go because it would do me good in all areas of my life was a woman that I would go out with from time to time. I haven't spoken with her in months now. Really don't care to either.

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Re: bipolar or mood swings caused by the cult
Posted by: nettie ()
Date: May 25, 2008 12:46PM

Everyone in the cult thinks that you have to find someone in the cult to have a powerful relationship with. Or you recruit the poor sucker your with already.

It is impossible to live with an nonlandmarker if you are in it. The conflicts will be everlasting - "just do the forum and you will start to see" - I had severe conflicts with my brother - then he joined and he could start seeing it my way. It really is devious...but it is an either/or situation...either your with me or you are against me. Big mistake for most people to apply this either/or thinking on their life. They miss out on the colors of life and start to live in an old movie that runs in black/white. They are either "on the court or in the stands" - either with landmark or against them - if you are not with them and recruit others they tell you your life will go back to its preforum state. It may even become worse. They make you sign bogus legal documents to harass you into silence....

I HATE LANDMARK! F-K THEM

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Re: bipolar or mood swings caused by the cult
Posted by: Zorro ()
Date: May 25, 2008 02:00PM

Nettie,

Your right about trying to get your relationship partner into Landmark. I tried that, didn't work. She read about Landmark and had a strong reaction. Then worked on getting me out of it. But not before our relationship was destroyed. But I would have never left it if I hadn't realized it myself. I felt like she was attacking me the whole time. The sad part is that we tried hard to make things work even after I left Landmark. But to some extent she still see's me the same way I was when I was in Landmark. It's evident when I see her and talk with her. I'm pretty much back to my old self now. But a little more mellow at this point, since the whole Landmark ordeal has been such an ass kicker.

I've literally had to rebuild my life, pick up where I left off, and play catch up for the lost time. Landmark set me back substantially. It's actually amazing that 9 months of involvement can undo years of progress.

I hate those Landmark Bastards. I hate them most for destroying my relationship with my girlfriend. By now we would have been married and planning for a family. I hate those f-krs for taking that away from me. Not only that, the whole recovery process has left me saddled with an enormous debt that is keeping me from pursuing my previous investment activities. I hate those f-krs for that too. I've been set back a long ways financially but I'll persevere. I also hate them for some of the health problems that developed during and immediately after leaving Landmark. My health is getting back to where it should be. But I'm on f'n Anti-depressants now, thanks to Landmark! I sure as hell didn't need them when I went in, but I needed them when I came out. According to my doctor I should be able to go off of them at some point, which I'm looking forward to.

I'm really pissed at Landmark and when I get back on my feet my intention is to close them down and run them out of Texas and the surrounding states, including Mexico.

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