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Maxui
Not really into being beaten.... physically anyway
this speaks volumes, Maxui: and I must say I am not surprised. YOUR OWN "inference" here is that while you are not "into" being beaten physically, therefore you are saying that you are not adverse to be beaten emotionally/psychologically.
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It's another example of taking a perfectly good word - 'Responsibility" and twisting it to mean something else entirely. From their definition, the word that comes to mind isn't 'responsibility' but rather 'God-like omnipotence'....It's a partial truth. I think it's good to ask 'How did i create this in my life?" as long as you distinguish what was within your control from what wasn't.
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Although there was often an element of truth in the trainer's arguments, the extensive use of all-or-nothing categories, absolutist logic and magical thinking distorted what would other-wise have been reasonable points. Ideas were not presented as problematic beliefs which were open to scrutiny but as transcendent truth--"natural knowing." The critical eye of the participant wits turned away from tile content of the training and toward him/herself. its the source of all knowledge
[b:007c69a3c5]Infantile omnipotence and identification with the leader[/b:007c69a3c5]
After participating in a variety of regressive exercises, Participants came increasingly to identify with the trainer and to share his power during the third and fourth days of training. Shifting from the emphasis upon submission and trust, the trainer suggested that we were totally responsible for all events, in our lives--"100 percent accountable"--including the selection of our parents. An exercise designed to illustrate the theme of "taking full responsibility" involved the use of pairs. Partners were to tell each other of an occasion when each had been victimized. Several people told stories about having been beaten by a parent as a child. We were then instructed to retell the story from a position of 100 percent accountability--in other words, how we "set things up to be that way."
This exercise transformed the infantile helplessness which participants had experienced earlier into infantile omnipotence. Many participants reported feelings of elation and expansiveness following this exercise. The level of insight gained was akin to the reasoning of a small child who has not yet cognitively overcome an egocentric view of the world--the conviction that all events emanate from the self. The subjective experience of liberation which accompanied this exercise seemed to stem from the sense of omnipotent control generated among the participants. The group was particularly vulnerable to this type of primitive reasoning because of the effects of the earlier training. The lowering of inhibitions, the extensive structuring of the environment and the undermining of critical thought combined to elicit archaic defenses such as omnipotence.
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SaneAgain
Rswinters, did Klemmer use the phrase "going into effect" or did they have another word for it?...
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"SaneAgain"
Shad, get those boots on! And don't forget my commission... :wink: