Question Lady wrote:
The concepts sound just like The Release Technique - the mind is like a computer, past programming. They don't say "at cause" and "at effect' that i know of. (geez, talk about terms that no one outside the LGATcan understand) but rather 'ego' or 'ego/mind' versus "beingness". Several people, including my husband, have said it is similar to the scientology scale. And yes, i experienced the arrogance of the newly enlightened when I had any so called "negative" emotion - that I just needed to "release'.
It is frustrating. These programs are all so similar, yet my husband does not see in any way that there was covert persuasion. I wish I had taped him when he was 'in beingness" up so he could hear himself and the things he actually believed.
He now sees that Larry Crane lies, that the method does not deliver, but not that there was any covert mind control. Do you think it is necessary to know what happened to you in order to fully recover from it? I'm concerned that it is necessary and also in order to not get taken in again. And BTW, decades ago, my husband was in Scientology for a while - and yet here he goes again. And he owns "The Guru Papers" and "Snapping". I am at a loss.
Its really good news that he sees through Larry Crane and has lost faith in the method! Does that mean he's stopped going to classes, dumped his releasing buddy, etc? Do you ever notice him using the techniques still, either consciously or unconsciounsly (maybe controlling his breathing, for example?)
My answer to your question, based on what happened to me, would have to be "Yes, it is necessary to know what happened to you to recover from it". Maybe not for everyone, but for me it was / is. And it sounds like your husband never truly shook off the scientology stuff, and maybe that was part of the attraction of The Sedona Method, the 'nice' parts of scientology that he maybe still longed for and / or believed in.
I had to take two steps - first I recognised that it "wasn't working for me" and that the trainers and training were flawed, and I got out. But that was like walking out of a prison but still acting and feeling like a prisoner, because I still believed the core of what they taught me and I had no idea I'd been conditioned. In retrospect that was only about ten percent "out". The rest came from reading this site, and really working at undoing all the ideas and 'automatic' responses and destructive feelings quest gave me. Now I feel about 70% "out". I still catch myself automatically thinking quest stuff, particularly when I am under stress or upset. And I still regularly read things here that I think / do and had forgotten that they actually from quest. The parts that still affect me are the parts that I haven't yet been able to dismantle intellectually, to see what the 'trick' was.
I also know other people who say they are out, but resort to using quest things under stress (for example, in an argument).
What has really helped me is going back and looking at the things I believed and took an interest in before quest. A lot of those things are quite contrary to quest, so I'm lucky. For example, Carl Sagan was one of my favourite authors, before quest. So now it helps to have that to use as a point of reference when I get a quest fog in my brain. I think religion has been similarly helpful to others, for example Rswinters taking a renewed interest and perspective in his christian faith.
Maybe your husband has similar lost / forgotten / over-ridden interests or beliefs, that you could discuss in terms of how contradictory the sedona method is to the other beliefs, and how odd it is that he came to believe all the sedona things so easily? This may lead him to at least consider that he was covertly conditioned. Maybe he's just got a case of "it couldn't happen to me" syndrome? So he reads things like 'snapping' and doesn't recognise himself there? It is a bit bewildering..