Sorry, but if you use the "Preview" feature before clicking on "Submit" that can serve the same purpose.

I know for a fact that they monitor this board. When a friend was trying to recruit me and I said there was a lot of opposition on the net, he said "Yes, be my guest and read RICKROSS.com" So they are doing a reverse-psychology thingy and telling people to come here for the "other" POV.

Also, another thing that is suspicious is that the Forum is 18 hours long each day. There is really no time between sessions to log in and post, and if you did take time after the 18 hour session, wouldn't you be completely wiped out??

I don't know, it seemed to me he mentioned this woman who spilled her guts about sexual abuse...and then next day
...oh by the way we broke early as the girl who spilled her guts about the sexual abuse had to go to the hospital...

Maybe he didn't think it through...that this poor woman was having a mental or emotional breakdown, after having her trauma triggered by some incompetent and negligent Landmark leader?

that is the kind of thing Landmark covers up, when people have to be taken out of The Forum and to the emergency ward due to a mental or emotional breakdown, after having some horrendus trauma triggered, when that kind of trauma needs to be handled by a certified mental health specialist.

That is very damning information to let leak out...
If that woman harmed herself, or someone else, that Landmark leader could be prosecuted for negligence...that is why they escorted her to the hospital...if they just kick her out and she got in a car crash, or committed suicide, they Landmark could be prosecuted for negligence.

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that is the kind of thing Landmark covers up, when people have to be taken out of The Forum and to the emergency ward due to a mental or emotional breakdown, after having some horrendus trauma triggered, when that kind of trauma needs to be handled by a certified mental health specialist.

That is very damning information to let leak out...
If that woman harmed herself, or someone else, that Landmark leader could be prosecuted for negligence...that is why they escorted her to the hospital...if they just kick her out and she got in a car crash, or committed suicide, they Landmark could be prosecuted for negligence.

I think what you are trying to refer to is the EMTALA statute, Emergency Medical Treatment and Active Labor Act. Though Landmark is not regulated like a medical agency - they should be, for they are practicing psychotherapy and psychology without a license. And horrific trauma is not the only kind of trauma that should be handled by a certified mental health specialist, all trauma and regressed memories should be handled by trained mental health professionals, and not some "Leader" who is only "heavily trained in the technology of the training".

Yeesh.

I am just referring to the general principle, when you have someone in "authority" like a Landmark leader, who is engaging psychological issues with people, like having them speak on an open mike about sexual abuse and other traumatic issues, then this "authority" person has responsibilities. They have to behave responsibly, or they could be criminally prosecuted for negligence, never mind civil prosecution.

Any mental health professional is trained to set-up safety systems, and to even be available 24/7 in case of an emergency, when dealing with issues like sexual trauma which can make people go haywire.

Landmark claims through their bogus disclaimer that they are not conducting anything like therapy, which is not true. But that would be up to a judge to determine, and it would be up to a judge to determine if laws are being broken.
Werner Erhard cut his own Landmark leaders loose, and told them THEY ARE RESPONSIBLE for what goes on in that room. So if someone has a mental breakdown, or gets agitated or confused from the psychological procedures, and then goes out and commits suicide, or homicide, then that Landmark leader could be prosecuted. Landmark would dump that Leader if they had to, and probably try to make him the scapegoat.

Just like anyone in a position of power can't go and start having sex with those who are under them.
Its the same with Landmark, if people start freaking out in a Landmark seminar, that is LANDMARKS RESPONSIBILTY, and they know it. That's why they would stop the seminar, and take the person to the hospital. But it does not stop there, as there is a CLEAR PATTERN of people having psychotic breaks, and mental breakdowns from est to Landmark.
Landmark is totally responsible for what they are doing to people, and that is why they have settled and paid out to so many people already.

If your "product or service" causes damage in people, then you are liable for it. If you are a physical trainer, and your exercises harm people, you will be held accountable.
Landmark sells services and products, and when they are shown to cause damage to people, then Landmark and their leaders are liable both civilly and criminally.

Does Landmark give refunds AFTER attending the Forum? The lgat I went to used to offer money-back guarantee: if you didn't like the "course" you could get a full refund. I don't think they do that anymore.

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If your "product or service" causes damage in people, then you are liable for it. If you are a physical trainer, and your exercises harm people, you will be held accountable.
Landmark sells services and products, and when they are shown to cause damage to people, then Landmark and their leaders are liable both civilly and criminally.

This information would be very good to have (but, how to get?). What percentage of attendees is caused (severe, measurable) damage?

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The_Trooper a troll? Well, to slay a troll all you need is a hero/heroine...and it seems there are plenty here!

More seriously, this is an open board for cutting up all sorts of vegetables. Once they're in the pot the soup usually tastes pretty good.

Okay, really seriously, I don't think we have to worry about The_Trooper's personal journey. I mean, what can we really do? We can shine our little lights of sanity, but each of us is free to wander in the dark.

But, like moths, we'll always return to the light of reason. It's comforting to know that we can 'freely' express our thoughts and feelings. And, more importantly, have them challenged by a 'sympathetic' group.

So, I say, come all you trolls, goblins and tinsel-covered fairies...we're really not that much different from you. :wink:

PS: Speaking for myself, of course... :oops:

I feel bad about implying T was a troll now. If he was begging to have his posts removed, that might well imply he was being pressured by someone.