To Tsu:
There are many Thieme cheerleading websites on the net, this is not one of them. We do not overlook Thieme's errors here.
Thieme was/is a fascist in the likes of Hitler and Kittel. Thieme's political fascist cult reflects this overly-aggressive, no conscience, immorally murder for Jesus, submit to the viscious Imperial Roman Caeser's authority, for the coin of the realm mentality. Thieme's teachings were an extremist fascist political movement designed to attack liberals and true democracy as Hitler did. 75% of Protestant churches in 1933 submitted to Hitler. Thieme prayed to the Lord, but so did Hitler in his speeches. Hitler followed Luther and spoke that God was dealing with Germany as a nation, just as Thieme spoke to thiemites, that God was dealing with the USA as a nation and they were personally responsible for the USA's future. The Nazi brownshirts would marry in the German churches just as Thieme's highly supported military "special ops" get married at Be"reich"ah. The German "volk" had the entire weight and responsibility of germany on thier shoulders, just as Thieme psycologically overloaded thiemites with the entire responsibilty of America's future. On every Nazi belt buckle was enscribed "Gott Mit Uns" "God is with us" [
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People should check out these 2 videos:
Theologians Under Hitler
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And for a christian who had "real guts" (not just a mouth piece) and foresight to resist Hitler
Bonhoeffer (2003)
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Some call Thieme a cult, some say Thieme is cult-like. I say CULT IS NOT A STRONG ENOUGH WORD for the destructive extremist political movement. A destructive cult is quite harmless in comparison, but Thieme's political movement encompasses every aspect of a destructive cult. Everyone saw what Hitler did to the world. Thieme tried to induce (unquestionable obedience to an American Fuhrer) into christianity just as the Nazis Hitler's and Kittel's christianity induced into Germany. Albeit Thieme speaks for the Jews (not necessarily acting for) this time around, but the Nazi evil fascist spirit of Thieme is just as evil and destructive as it was in the 3rd Reich. The "enemy" victims are just 1 group different this time around. Thieme is Kittel reborn and as such Thieme would and does support an extremist "christian speaking" Fuhrer to be a dictator in the USA. Thieme would have been 1st on the list to "smooze" Hitler, especially if it would have given Thieme a military promotion.
Tsu:
Thieme's work is not without a SMALL area of controversy. While CHARISMATIC ministers deny essential doctrines, while Evangelical ministers dismiss large portions of Scripture and are celebrated for gimmicks and games with books like "Purpose Driven" or "The Prayer of Jabez" while spitting on sound exegesis and hermeneutics to formulate their ideas, Thieme's areas of controversy are in exegetical conclusions that at NO PLACE and at NO TIME deny the essentials of ORTHODOX Evangelical ChristianityTruthtesty:
Thieme was intentionally controversial, with a chip on his shoulder. Why does Diotrophes attack ministers who have faith in Jesus? Is thier knowledge limited? Yes. Is/was Thieme's knowledge limited? Yes. Thieme is no better than those he attacked. Thieme was not "justified" in attacking them. Those ministers did not spit on sound exegesis they "were having faith in Jesus in thier community".
Dr. Chafer considered doctrine of the blood redemption of Christ very essential and Thieme denied the ORTHODOX doctrine of the efficacy of the shed literal blood of Christ in the blood redemption. The "PLACE" was at Be"reich"ah. The "TIME" was over the past 30 years.
Dr. Chafer Vol. 2, Page 108
All teachers are to be judged by their attitude toward the doctrine of the blood redemption of Christ, rather than by their winsome personalities, their education, or their sincerity. Since the blood redemption of the cross is the central truth and value of the true faith, it being the “power of God unto salvation” (Rom. 1:16; 1 Cor. 1:23–24), any counterfeit system of doctrine which would omit this essential, must force some secondary truth into the place of prominence.Doctrinal statement of Dallas Theological Seminary:
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We believe that Satan is the originator of sin, and that, under the permission of God, he, through subtlety, led our first parents into transgression, thereby accomplishing their moral fall and subjecting them and their posterity to his own power; that he is the enemy of God and the people of God, opposing and exalting himself above all that is called God or that is worshiped; and that he who in the beginning said, “I will be like the most High,” in his warfare appears as an angel of light, even counterfeiting the works of God by fostering religious movements and systems of doctrine, which systems in every case are characterized by a denial of the efficacy of the blood of Christ and of salvation by grace alone (Gen. 3:1–19; Rom. 5:12–14; 2 Cor. 4:3–4; 11:13–15; Eph. 6:10–12; 2 Thess. 2:4; 1 Tim. 4:1–3).[
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Carm says "what makes something non-Christian is when it denies the essential doctrines of the Bible".
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Thieme's hermenutics are pathetic. One such example is Thieme says you should insert in place of the Blood, “the SPIRITUAL DEATH” of Christ. This is a
violation of the basic hermeneutical principles of Scripture interpretation by setting up a typology in the New Testament based on the anti-type also in the New Testament. Type and anti-type are Old Testament "Type" to New Testament "Anti-Type". This is
BASIC hermenuetics and Thieme fumbles the ball. Thieme forces this on the average people who really don't know much about hermenuetics. Most average people think "well he went to school so it must be true" but it is not true. Again this "private interpretation" of Thieme's is to support his false fascist politically extreme ideology.
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