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rrmoderator
GeneZ:
Here is a more relevant issue pertaining to this thread.
You come across as rather fanatical and obsessive, like a "cult" member.
Thieme comes across as pretty much a petty, authoritarian crank, that operated on the fringes of Christianity.
You would like to ignore these issues and/or anything that relate directly to Thieme's behavior, but that's what this Web site is largely about.
That is, if leaders and groups don't hurt people, no one really cares about their beliefs.
It those here did not have their parents make them attend church when they did not want to go, you would not be getting these complaints. Notice how all who are complaining here were children or teenagers when they were made to attend church.
The church was an open door. You could attend if you wanted. If you desired to remain anonymous? No visitors cards were ever handed out for follow up. Its some of the children that hated it that are complaining here. Go back and see who they are. They did not attend out of free will. I would have hated it too if I were not wanting to attend and were made to.
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rrmoderator
His claims about personal revelation and special knowledge, combined with his bad behavior and general lack of meaningful accountability, made Thieme a problem for those once stuck in his church.
Look at the following, please:
Philippians 1:9
"And this is my prayer: that your love may abound more and more in knowledge and depth of insight."Insight is not personal revelation. Thieme did not hear God's voice speak to him and tell him special revelations. As I pointed out, others like Charles Wesley and E.W. Bullinger had similar insights on certain teachings that TT jumps all over. Then TT began to attack E.W. Bullinger not realizing he was a highly respected theologian. And, he was controversial, too. For, what good is it being an expert if you can not teach something not seen before?
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rrmoderator
Truthtesty apparently lived through this, whereas you really did not.
I know people who grew up in the ministry. They would tell you a different account entirely. There were those who wanted to be there because they wanted to learn. Others hated it and did not want to be there. Just like if your parents made you attend a class in something you hated intensely and the teacher demanded your full attention and not to distract others while in class You would have hated it. I would have not wanted to sit still.
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rrmoderator
You listen endlessly to Thieme's tapes, idolize the man, which is much like many people fanatically devoted to a leader.
I idolize the man? What else do I think? Since you know.
You ran with an erroneous assumption. I did not say I continued ordering that way. I ordered twenty tapes a month at times, and for a while. I said that only to show how they would not charge for materials. Then you turned it around into something evil. Something I did not say. It made me wonder about the veracity of those moderating here.
I just checked my recent orders... .A single box in two, three, months? That's endlessly, to you? Yes, I still like to learn Bible teachings. And, not just from Berachah.
Go back and read my original statement more carefully. Its you that assumed I listen endlessly. You were wrong.
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rrmoderator
Maybe that's not too healthy.
Carelessly listening to another and then accusing them of what they did not intend, nor say... is not healthy.
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rrmoderator
And you don't have to be a Christian to recognize this.
What I have recognized is how you attempted to force a scenario upon me before you verify the facts. You have run on strong subjective assumption at times. Then accuse as if it were fact.
I have been patiently waiting for you to begin asking honest questions rather than only waiting for opportune moments to accuse. My patience only lasts so long.
I have been making copies of my posts before they are submitted. Since they get edited.
GeneZ
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