I have been reading this thread for a while now.
For years, I mostly bumped into walls of fear and disbelief when I tried to discuss this topic, but recently some people on Reddit are starting to speak out about their experiences and concerns.
Maybe it can be helpful to read their stories as well.
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I have lived with someone who became a CC follower during our relationship, radicalized quickly, and became a CC teacher. He did not work anymore, only did their workshops, listened to 'shouds', and walked around the house half-crazy because he had to 'integrate aspects'.
I had nowhere to go in those days, had gotten isolated, and lived in the craziness for a few years until it became unbearable and a friend simply put me and my child in his car and said: you are coming to live with me.
Some of the early CC leaders in my country visited our house regularly. A group of Americans from the core team visited our house once. They were all over my toddler, stating he was a 'born ascended Master' and super special.
At a certain point, I had already left our house: my ex wanted to take our very young child to CC meetings/workshops, and take him traveling and staying with CC members I did not know. He did not take no for an answer and I had to get child protection involved.
This is where my ex (finally) fully gave up on me and stopped gaslighting and bombing me with the cult dogma: I got the silent treatment. I finally had found the nerve to get the authorities involved, and he wanted to have nothing to do with taxes, alimony, or any authorities because in his view they were all corrupted institutions from the Old Earth, and he was entitled to live free on the New Earth. He also immediately shut down from our child, who has not heard or seen him for over 15 years. Like he was so afraid of "Old Earth Influence' that he chose to give up on his own child.
Once he tried to convince me we had to stop paying rent & taxes, so he could do more of their expensive workshops and buy stuff his heart desired. He stated he could make us magically invisible to the authorities and I had nothing to worry about. (I said not gonna happen)
Once he cheated on me, and when I tried to talk about our relationship (vulnerable and crying) he simply said: you are God, and you created this for yourself. You wanted to experience this. Do not bother me with judgment or negative emotions. You have to become a Master of your own life. And walked away.
One of his friends, one of the early CC leaders and CC teachers in my country, (he wrote a book, sold workshops, was all in) visited us for a few days. I found him on our couch, "manifesting death". He whispered to me: you feel like such a safe mother figure, you can help me. He stated he would either physically die or 'quantum jump' to the New Earth. Nothing happened, and that was fine too, he simply went on with his day and I was so confused.
This same person was dedicated to only eating super unhealthy food to break free from Old Earth convictions and shamed everyone around him for believing in the Old Earth illusion of eating healthy. He simply laughed in your face when you made a healthy choice.
Another man, CC member, very intelligent, good job, visited us and enthusiastically told us: I have broken the law of time while driving my car here. I arrived much sooner than possible! The bloke was superhappy, he had no idea how he did 'it' and he had fully forgotten most of the journey. He had no concern for the dangers he might have put himself and others into.
When I was investigating what was happening in our house, I joined their old forum and was faced with people encouraging each other to 'have astral sex with ghosts' and sharing experiences.
There were some more moderate members who distanced themselves from these extremes, but nobody said: what the heck are you doing, snap out of it. They viewed it all as personal choice, and that was it. (This was more than 15 years ago)
I have lived without this madness for years now. It was deeply confusing and traumatic (i have had good therapy). Not only the experiences itself, but also the disbelief and stigma towards my own mental health.
This was so absurd that a lot of people simply have no reference for it, and refuse to engage. They just turn their heads or say something superficial to be polite. And take their distance. I have been incredibly lonely and misunderstood for a long time, before I got back on my feet.
This is why I have chosen to share. You are not alone and you are not crazy.
Luckily more knowledge about these types of cults is out there now. I hope everyone who needs it, will find the right care and support.