Do you have any good ideas to create more discussion, and keep it going?
Part of the problem are the BK "trolls" as well, who tried to disrupt this thread when it first started, and would still be doing so if allowed. They would turn it into a fog of confusion.
But also, I think its due to the demographics of who Byron Katie targets, and due to the Byron Katie system.
First, the system is self-blaming. Most people blame themselves, even when they get out of it. They may FEEL damaged, but they blame themselves due to the turnaround being ingrained.
also, whenever there is public criticism, BK people get those folks "on the phone" to try and quiet things down and shape it. (come into my parlor...lets talk...)
Also, anyone in the BK system for-profit, can't say a critical word, or they WILL be blacklisted by Byron Katie, as has been shown. Also, those who sell the work, its in their self-interest to play the game as sold.
But some critical voices are coming out anonymously, more all the time.
The courage of someone like Janaki is amazing, to come out so openly, she will be publically shunned by most BK people, although some would support her in secret. Or do some BK mind-game, and try to make it all about her, etc.
But to the demographics.
BK does generally target an audience who seem to be a bit "too nice", as they say? So they generally don't like criticism, conflict, etc.
So maybe they are more comfortable talking behind the scenes? Like the "bad" BK people at her LGAT seminar who would hide under the stairwell to smoke and drink coffee? They don't like to make waves, and maybe they just walk away quietly.
Also, this same demographic are more focussed on the "philosophy" and seem to ignore the persuasion techniques. So they just don't have the training to see them.
But I think the most essential component is the structure of the BK system, which engineers critical thinking right out of it.
Its very hard , even impossible, to have "soft" criticism of Byron Katie's system, if a person is in the BK system. It all gets turned around.
Only when a person drops the BK system, can they even start to criticize it.
Then once they drop the system, almost all of the people will just self-blame.
Its a CHECKMATE system. Checkmate means no escape, and people are being programmed to do the BK work system, for life.
Saw that. This wasn't a rhetorical question, either. What dries the discussion up at some point? On this thread, there's not new material available at the moment. On the guruphiliac thread, looked like things got contentious between a couple of participants. If the desired outcome is new participation, fresh involvement, continued dialogue about BK, opportunities to help others question that sort of program, then maybe helpful to examine what happens.