Yeah, lets focus on Steve's description of how, despite his very robust doubts, he nearly gave in to the group mentality within DW.
"Stiff Ideas" -- heh.
This appears to be part of the vocabulary at DW.
Any chance that it is Ole N who has problems with 'stiff ideas'...unthinkable.
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5.0 out of 5 stars Learn to Think Like a Buddhist
Ole Nydahl is a Buddhist teacher who lived for four years in relative hardship in the Himalayas and became a close disciple of a legendary (no exaggeration) Tibetan Buddhist teacher called "the Sixteenth Karmapa." The Sixteenth Karmapa died in 1981 but sent Ole Nydahl and his wife to the west to start Buddhist centers in his name. Since then he's started around six...
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This review is from: Buddha & Love: Timeless Wisdom for Modern Relationships (Hardcover)
Ole Nydahl is a Buddhist teacher who lived for four years in relative hardship in the Himalayas and became a close disciple of a legendary (no exaggeration) Tibetan Buddhist teacher called "the Sixteenth Karmapa." The Sixteenth Karmapa died in 1981 but sent Ole Nydahl and his wife to the west to start Buddhist centers in his name. Since then he's started around six hundred of them.
My understanding is he typically circles the globe twice a year on a never-ending pilgrimage, spending time in each of the centers he's started. In all that time and in all those different hemispheres you can imagine how many people he's met and talked to, how many couple relationships he's seen in various stages of getting together, staying together, or flying apart. So, I'd say it's the synthesis of all that human observation you get by reading this.
That's the lens you're looking through when you open this book.
To me, even though I've been in the same relationship for many years, it felt like an eagle's-eye-view of human interactions, like gliding overhead observing the big picture. He's obviously seen everything, heard everything, and thought about it all deeply.
If it seems odd reading about pair-bonding from a tradition that seems to encourage celibacy maybe it makes more sense to think about it in terms of the profound understanding of the mind Tibetan Buddhism represents. I mean, after all, they knew about the subconscious mind a thousand years before Freud (and they call it the "store consciousness" because everything is stored there). I just offer that as an example of the depth of Buddhist psychology.
On that basis alone, aren't you a little curious about what they have to say about relationships? After all, as he says in the book, having a partner is so important to all of us because it holds such a huge possibility for happiness if we can manage it and such a miserable possibiliy for unhappiness if we can't.
So, I bought this and definitely got a lot out of it. I even intend to read it again which is fairly rare for me. Of course, I got onto this guy because I thought his Mahamudra book ("Great Seal") was one of the best books I'd ever read and read it so many times I had to take it to Kinko's and get it rebound.
Well, anyway, I enjoy this guy's thought processes. They seem very mature and based on real world experience. He's even inspiring. And as time goes by I think inspiration in life is at least as rare as falling deeply in love and maybe worth even more.
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Buddha & Love: Timeless Wisdom for Modern Relationships 1937061841 Lama Ole Nydahl Brio Books Buddha & Love: Timeless Wisdom for Modern Relationships Books Learn to Think Like a Buddhist Ole Nydahl is a Buddhist teacher who lived for four years in relative hardship in the Himalayas and became a close disciple of a legendary (no exaggeration) Tibetan Buddhist teacher called "the Sixteenth Karmapa." The Sixteenth Karmapa died in 1981 but sent Ole Nydahl and his wife to the west to start Buddhist centers in his name. Since then he's started around six hundred of them.
My understanding is he typically circles the globe twice a year on a never-ending pilgrimage, spending time in each of the centers he's started. In all that time and in all those different hemispheres you can imagine how many people he's met and talked to, how many couple relationships he's seen in various stages of getting together, staying together, or flying apart. So, I'd say it's the synthesis of all that human observation you get by reading this.
That's the lens you're looking through when you open this book.
To me, even though I've been in the same relationship for many years, it felt like an eagle's-eye-view of human interactions, like gliding overhead observing the big picture. He's obviously seen everything, heard everything, and thought about it all deeply.
If it seems odd reading about pair-bonding from a tradition that seems to encourage celibacy maybe it makes more sense to think about it in terms of the profound understanding of the mind Tibetan Buddhism represents. I mean, after all, they knew about the subconscious mind a thousand years before Freud (and they call it the "store consciousness" because everything is stored there). I just offer that as an example of the depth of Buddhist psychology.
On that basis alone, aren't you a little curious about what they have to say about relationships? After all, as he says in the book, having a partner is so important to all of us because it holds such a huge possibility for happiness if we can manage it and such a miserable possibiliy for unhappiness if we can't.
So, I bought this and definitely got a lot out of it. I even intend to read it again which is fairly rare for me. Of course, I got onto this guy because I thought his Mahamudra book ("Great Seal") was one of the best books I'd ever read and read it so many times I had to take it to Kinko's and get it rebound.
Well, anyway, I enjoy this guy's thought processes. They seem very mature and based on real world experience. He's even inspiring. And as time goes by I think inspiration in life is at least as rare as falling deeply in love and maybe worth even more.
Best of luck to you, whatever your spiritual pathway. rain cloud May 12, 2012
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Initial post: May 17, 2012 7:24:29 PM PDT
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Amelia says:
Lama Ole does not have celibacy vows. He was married for a long time until 2007 when his wife Hanah passed away, so one could say he does have some authority when speaking about relationships. Also there are some Tibetan buddhist traditions of lay people. Celibacy is just a choice, and is definitely the main choice people take in certain traditions, but not all.
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Thanks for the information. Best wishes to you and Lama Ole.
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Now readers let's see what happened to the full text of the "most helpful critical review" of Ole's book, which was posted on Amazon just one month ago, by 'Romeo.
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The most helpful critical review1 of 1 people found the following review helpful
1.0 out of 5 stars Buddhism is about a natural, open and selfless state of mind
Ole Nydahl's diamondway managed in the last years to develop into a sect par excellence.
He writes about love and all beings fulfillment but in reality abuses his teachings and people who want to naturally benefit everyone and realize what the buddhist path actually is about (in a broad and authentic manner) for his own perverted goals and stiff ideas. He cuts...
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Gone, gone, gone to the other side, never to return.
The full text of the complementary review gets to stay on Amazon.
The full text of the most helpful non complimentary review is gone.
All my efforts to be a
terton (treasure finder) were to no avail. Could not find the full text of Romeo's review at all.
THIS IS THE STUFF TO FOCUS ON, not Vajrayana terminology.
Jamgon wanted us to get our minds confused so he could stick our thought processes on a dagger and immobilize scrutiny of Ole and the DW organization.
Instead, get out your phurba daggers. Stick the phurba dagger of penetrating insight into Ole Nydal's stiff ideas--and use penetrating scrutiny on why Romeo's contribution, posted one month ago to Amazon cannot be found, while raincloud's adultatory review of Ole's book, posted 2 months ago, remains to be read in full.