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Supreme Master Ching Hai, Cambodia
Posted by: The Anticult ()
Date: April 28, 2011 01:28AM

There are reports that Ching Hai was buying up large tracts of land in Cambodia. [www.time.com]
QUOTE:
"Other religious leaders in Taiwan are barely polite. The secretary-general of the Taoist Association says he has information that she has bought up vast tracts of land in Cambodia.
Master Chinhsing, a Buddhist monk of Vietnamese origin who may have been Ching Hai's mentor, disapproves of her departure from the austere ways of Buddhist tradition. He has reportedly warned her never to identify herself as his former student."
Read more: [www.time.com]
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Ching Hai would probably set up her compound in a country where she can give local officials large cash GIFTS, to get them to leave her alone.
Like Ching Hai wanted to give Clinton a stack of money, but was flabbergasted when she realized you can't give politicians large sums of money like that openly.
Its called a bribe.

But in large parts of the world, bribing officials is common.
So maybe she will buy up large tract of land to create Ching Hailand.

Or maybe its a ruse to get wealthy followers, to donate LARGE sums of money to buy up huge parcels of land. Other sects do that all the time, come up with big projects that need large amounts of land.
Collect millions in donations.
then...
Cancel project, keep money.

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Re: Supreme Master, Ching Hailand, Cambodia, fear marketing
Posted by: The Anticult ()
Date: April 28, 2011 01:41AM

by the way, there is NO CHANCE that Ching Hai herself believes the world is ending next week in 2011, or whatever date she makes up on the spot.
All this stuff about cities getting wiped out, and the rest of it, is simply FEAR MARKETING.
One assumes that many of her followers believe her when she says this stuff. So much that she has gotten people to move to caves for a while, etc.

But Ching Hai knows that its just about using fear, to test and manipulate her followers. Fear works great, as a tool to manage large groups of people, every Guru knows that. As do politicians.

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Re: Supreme Master Television free-to-air satellite -Ching Hai propaganda
Posted by: Ocean_Of_Lies ()
Date: April 28, 2011 06:06AM

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The Anticult
There are reports that Ching Hai was buying up large tracts of land in Cambodia. [www.time.com]
QUOTE:
"Other religious leaders in Taiwan are barely polite. The secretary-general of the Taoist Association says he has information that she has bought up vast tracts of land in Cambodia.
Master Chinhsing, a Buddhist monk of Vietnamese origin who may have been Ching Hai's mentor, disapproves of her departure from the austere ways of Buddhist tradition. He has reportedly warned her never to identify herself as his former student."
Read more: [www.time.com]

Let's replace the first message puresoul posted on this thread [forum.culteducation.com] which was pretty informative on this matter (thanks again!)

If you look at Ching Hai's "press-kit" [www.suprememastertv.com], you notice that she has lots of "accolades" from officials. Some Cambodia officials may be corruptible, but it would be uneasy to build her kingdom there. Most of the actual communist officials in Cambodia have been set up by the Vietnamese Communist Party, and they are still "in touch" with the VCP. And in Vietnam right now, Ching Hai is banned like evil. So Cambodia may not be a good playground for Ching Hai after all. Anyway, Ching Hai still have very good relatives in many other countries.

Do anyone know if Ching Hai continued any activity there in Cambodia after people came back to Taiwan?

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Re: Supreme Master Television free-to-air satellite -Ching Hai propaganda
Posted by: puresoul ()
Date: April 28, 2011 06:27AM

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Ocean_Of_Lies
Do anyone know if Ching Hai continued any activity there in Cambodia after people came back to Taiwan?
The project failed in 1997. She blamed its failure due to some disciples wished it to fail. (was recorded on a vedeo)
Then she got married with her attendant in May 1997 (seemed quite serious with two formal ceremonies) –(secret to disciples) and moved to USA until 2003.

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Re: Supreme Master Television free-to-air satellite -Ching Hai propaganda
Posted by: Ocean_Of_Lies ()
Date: April 28, 2011 06:33AM

Interesting...

The Religious Situation in Cambodia in the 1990s by NADEZI-IDA BEKTIMIROVA, in Religion, State & Society, Vol. 30, No. 1, 2002 $ Carfax Publishing

[www.orphanmissions.com]

This text presents Ching Hai as a new kind of missionary. The big difference is that modern missionary like her have millions of dollars to flash-convert poor people. It's very understandable she choose such a country to develop something. She's not the only one. Actually the Cambodian government took things seriously and tried to control the activities of Ching Hai's sect. That's precisely why she stopped everything, then came back to Taiwan as fast as she left.

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The Khmer Sangha is thus actively seeking a place of its own in the new society
and ways of adapting to new conditions. This ‘aggiornamento’ has been prompted
not only by the consequences of social and economic modernisation, but also by
important new phenomena in the religious life of the country. For the first time in the
postcolonial period the Khmer Sangha has come up against competition from other
religious confessions. In the 1990s Cambodia became the object of increased
attention on the part of various missionary organisations and schools of preaching.

This was facilitated by the tolerance of Buddhism towards other religions, by the lack
of a legal framework in the country to regulate the activity of religious groups and
cults, and also by the policy of the Cambodian authorities who in their growing
concern to attract foreign investment to the country tend to welcome any kind
of activity, including that of religious organisations, which promises to provide
financial aid of one kind or another.

One organisation working in Cambodia which has great financial potential and a
large number of members is the ‘Suma Ching Hai’ association, which has its head-
quarters in Taiwan. The sect’s founder Ching Hai has stated openly that Cambodia is
‘an ideal place’ in which to spread her teaching.“ Setting itself the goal of
penetrating into Cambodia, the sect initiated various humanitarian and charitable
activities in l994—95, giving financial aid to build schools and hospitals and
organising educational programmes; it gave large sums of money to support the
charitable activities of the wives of high-ranking officials."

As a result the sect received substantial reductions on the price of large plots of
land in Cambodia, especially in Kompong Speu province, where it set up its Centre
of Spiritual Renaissance, to the great displeasure of the local population. The conflict
caused by the sect’s activity
became even more serious when it became apparent that
a significant number of its members had entered Cambodia illegally and had circum-
vented the legislation in force when they acquired Cambodian passports. Another
noticeable feature is that most of the followers of the teaching are people of Chinese
origin. There are several reasons for this, but it is clearly part of the process of the
revival of the Chinese community and the restoration of its members to their
previous positions in the Cambodian economy. This process began in the 1990s
and is stimulated by energetic lobbying on behalf of the interests of the Chinese
community in government and political circles. In order to solve the various
problems and to prevent such conflicts in the future a special committee has been set
up to investigate the activities of the Ching Hai association
and to register its
members. The results of its investigations have been considered by the govemment,
which has adopted a resolution stipulating drastic measures to control the activity of
the sect
and to provide security in the region where the religious community is
located. The Ministry of Cults and Religious Affairs has been ordered to exercise
guidance over the activities of the Centre of Spiritual Renaissance. Given the fact
that laws on religiori in Cambodia are in an underdeveloped state this is a first and
very significant step towards the regulation of the activity of religious groups in
Cambodia

Just as active are the Japanese sects and Christian missions which combine
preaching with generous charitable activity. Khmer peasants who come to their
places of worship are given bicycles, motorcycles, agricultural equipment and
financial help.” The standard of living in Khmer villages is extremely low and the
peasants need all the material help they can get, so some of them, for purely prag-
matic reasons, agree to accept another faith, though they continue to go to Buddhist
temples as well.

More than 700 Protestant organisations and hundreds of missionaries are hard at
work all over Cambodia building churches, supplying aid to needy communities and
seeking converts among the traditionally Buddhist population. According to Article
43 of the law regulating religion any religious organisation is forbidden to ‘buy’
converts. However, the government is too poor to provide adequately for the needs of
the population, and people tend to give their allegiance to those who help them
materially. Missionary organisations explain that offering physical help in the form
of clothes and rice to people in need is an expression of God’s love. The head of the
Department of Foreign Relations at the Ministry of Cults and Religious Affairs, You
Davann, says that her department is pitifully understaffed and underfunded and
unable to monitor what she calls the ‘growing trend’ for Buddhist Cambodians to
convert to Christianity."

Without doubt ‘modernisation’ — the economic and socio-cultural changes which
have taken place in Cambodia - has presented the Khmer Sangha with serious
problems and the process of its adaptation to the new situation will be complex, even
ambiguous. The relationship between the process of transformation of Buddhism and
the dynamics of the modernisation of society will depend on many factors and,
indeed, not so much on the Buddhist community itself as on the degree of interest in
its activity shown by different political forces in the country. At present Cambodian
politicians are fully aware of the importance of this question for the future of the
country; they understand completely that there are limits to the process of trans-
forming Buddhism, and that the religious consciousness of the Khmer is not able to
adapt to all the consequences of modernisation.

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Re: Supreme Master Television free-to-air satellite -Ching Hai propaganda
Posted by: puresoul ()
Date: April 28, 2011 06:39AM

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Ocean_Of_Lies

If you look at Ching Hai's "press-kit" [www.suprememastertv.com], you notice that she has lots of "accolades" from officials.

Also not long ago all centers were asked by headquarter to hang up chinghai with celebraties’ photos such as pictures she's with some Hollywood stars when she visited a party once with her generous jewelry gifts.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 04/28/2011 06:44AM by puresoul.

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Re: Supreme Master Television free-to-air satellite -Ching Hai propaganda
Posted by: Ocean_Of_Lies ()
Date: April 28, 2011 07:05AM

Just to put some pictures on words...

Self-congratulation on Supreme Master TV about actions in Cambodia (begins at 13:21) [www.dailymotion.com]

name of the video : Cambodia: Fascinating Royal Legacy of a Nation

EDIT : sorry puresoul because a few times we posted messages in the same time. It often takes me a long time to finish a message, that's why sometimes my post seems not to consider what have been said before. :)



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Re: Supreme Master Television free-to-air satellite -Ching Hai propaganda
Posted by: puresoul ()
Date: April 28, 2011 07:27AM

The project of Cambodia was from 1996-1997, hundreds of people had been there & worked there until it failed. (The smtv episode is not accurate about 1995 retreat which was in Taiwan.)

Ocean_of_lies, don't worry about the messages on this thread, till now, I see it's quite consistent. I also like another nick name of you-(2+2=5):), great, there's no logic of Chinghai's belief system.

another link of her exposed news in Taiwan in 2007. [bemadojetc.wordpress.com]



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Re: Supreme Master Television free-to-air satellite -Ching Hai propaganda
Posted by: Ocean_Of_Lies ()
Date: April 28, 2011 08:05AM

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puresoul
Ocean_of_lies, don't worry about the messages on this thread, till now, I see it's quite consistent. I also like another nick name of you-(2+2=5):), great, there's no logic of Chinghai's belief system.

another link of her exposed news in Taiwan in 2007. [bemadojetc.wordpress.com]
In the same line, I also like "War is Peace - Freedom is Slavery - Ignorance is Strength"... which is very suitable to Ching Hai, and her power of contradicting to ruin one's mind.

The article in chinese seems to be very interesting. I wish I could read it directly, cos Google Translate is a real massacre of meaning. :)

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Re: Supreme Master Television free-to-air satellite -Ching Hai propaganda
Posted by: puresoul ()
Date: April 28, 2011 07:44PM

Actually the Cambodian government took things seriously and tried to control the activities of Ching Hai's sect. That's precisely why she stopped everything, then came back to Taiwan as fast as she left.

She left Taiwan because Taiwanese government checked on her 'money' matter/ allegations of her scaming money out of her disiciples in 1996.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 04/28/2011 07:47PM by puresoul.

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