Re: Chris Butler, Jagad Guru, Science of Identity
Posted by: dharmabum ()
Date: December 05, 2015 04:07AM

Radha Harvey states that the “Mantra Meditation” and “Kirtan” prescribed by Chris Butler just “switches off the mind.”
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This woman scares me to death. The couple scares me to death. I pity the children.

This is a sample of the mindset that persists in the Chris Butler cult, a leftover of the hippie culture (the bad part of it). Unfortunately, there are still people especially among yoga practitioners and the "joiners" that find this culture "cute"; fortunately, they are becoming a minority nowadays.

In reality "joiners" join but it has got nothing to do with God or discipline, just pure "cuteness" and Chris Butler is the master of "cuteness". Just listen to his stupid voice. People do love to "feel good" and "look cute", I mean "look good". So whether we like or not, cults like the Science of Identity will still be adequately marketable. And they are making adjustments to look "cool". I doubt if they even practice the regulative principles anymore. For all you know they watch porn all the time and the couples are procreating like rabbits.

Like frogs, they live in a dark and isolated well, to them is the Universe. Once in a while they get to hop out to see that there are ponds outside and as far as their eyes can see, but will hop in back there again and continue to live in denial. Well, denial has a price and consequences. You get to live in fear when there is none and help sustain a bigger, darker world where people are actually threatened and get hurt. There are victims. All cults have, it is cult's very nature, no matter how good they look from the outside cults by definition and practices have no place in an open and modern society.

My hope is for the children to be able to crawl out of the well and get rid of their bubbles to see the well for what is it — a make-believe damp, cramped and empty Universe concocted by a pretender. Otherwise, Social Services should get involved.

Thank you, Rama.



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Re: Tulsi Gabbard Civil Beat
Date: December 06, 2015 05:49PM

Right on, Dharmabum, keep up your awesome efforts.

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Servants now allowed to laugh!
Posted by: just-googling ()
Date: December 07, 2015 02:40AM

* THE BOOK OF RULES ~ It's too bad that no-one on this forum has access to this long document that was written by Chris Butler around 1988. While other "spiritual masters" within the same Krishna cult were writing books on how to take care of and worship wooden deities, Mr. Butler wrote a several-hundred page book on how to take care of and worship .... HIMSELF!

At that time I was still on the mailing list and Prema dasi did send me a copy of this document via the mail. I distinctly remember opening up the parcel and glancing momentarily at that huge dossier. After reading literally a couple of sentences, I placed the large document back into the envelope and went immediately back to the postal office and wrote "RETURN TO SENDER" on the envelope and sent it back to Honolulu. I felt that I certainly did not need such nonsense at that time in my life.

And this document was considered "TOP SECRET" ... Mr. Butler did at one time get enraged because one of his followers had accidentally left this document on a public transport vehicle and it was "stolen" ... So if anyone out there can get hold of this document it would certainly make an interesting topic for this forum.

Especially interesting are the rules and regulations about the servants and guards not allowed to laugh at Butler's weak jokes with his Queen Bee and her family as he was out on his holidays at the ski resorts etc! They were supposed to stand there like zombies as Butler was enjoying life with his eternal consort! I never did get to meet the Queen Bee's children but I understand that one of them is named "Siddha" (?) so I can just envision a scenario of big Siddha being extra sweet to little Siddha ... kind of like the way that Doctor Evil was so sweet to Mini-Me in the Austin Powers movies?

* REINCARNATION EXPLAINED is a book written by Chris Butler in the 1980s, and while I have no criticism against anyone's religious beliefs, what is noteworthy about this book is that it has no less than 31 full page pictures of ... you guessed it ... CHRIS BUTLER! Many people who saw this book immediately commented on the egocentric nature of these photographs.

* THE GREAT AIR-CONDITIONER CONSPIRACY ~ Yes Mr. Butler did accuse his disciples of a conspiracy to kill him after he entered his home to find the air-conditioner set too high. Although Chris was fit enough to go surfing all day long, he apparently was unable to turn the air-conditioning unit to his preferred setting or to open a window to regulate the temperature of his home. He obviously saw this as an opportunity to curse his "disciples" - which seemed to be his favorite pastime in those days.

Yet despite the fearless leader's obvious paranoid delusions, he has failed to be aware of, in my opinion, a much greater conspiracy being played out by his beloved neo-Nazi style political parties and his beloved Fox/CNN propaganda machine. Mr. Butler BLINDLY accepted everything they reported as TRUTH ... whereas any astute observer with access to the internet and with a healthy dose of intuition can perceive that there is indeed a conspiracy so HUGE that the average man in the street does not believe it could exist.

That's my opinion anyway!

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Re: Tulsi Gabbard Civil Beat
Date: December 07, 2015 04:14AM

Rama Das (slave name) Wrote:
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> I dropped this comment on that newest Civil Beat
> article by chubby funster Chad Blair.

Gabbard Warns Of Nuclear War
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> Is Tulsi as well informed as she appears? Yelling
> about an impending nuclear holocaust is all us
> kids raised in her cult had shoved down our
> throats our whole lives. Her guru Chris Butler
> Siddhaswarupananda is a classic cult leader who...

Good job, Rama! Your comment has managed to stay alive and even has 4 likes. Karen Chun appears to be another Tulsibot and has 6 likes, probably from lurking cult-members.
Michael Schenk wrote: "Only seen one comment in here about how she's in a cult. That shit needs to be exposed. Seriously. She's a cult member. That much should worry you on its own. The way her cult leader was obsessed with nuclear war should worry you even more."

Bart Dame had a chance to give his personal testimony about Chris Butler's megalomania, but instead paid Tulsi a complement. Bart, WTF? He attempts to redeem himself by writing "Just to demonstrate I have not gone renegade and become a "Tulsibot," I think the vote she cast to block Syrian refugees was an opportunist gift to her Fox News fan base. It was a horrible concession to ignorance and fear."

Pam Ho crawled out of his troll hole to once again divert the discussion to religious freedom.
For those who are not familiar with the troll, Pam Ho, you can read my recent articles - Part one and Part two.

I thought Pam Ho had enough negative exposure and am suprised to see him back. Bring it on, "Pam". I've got enough on you to write a third chapter.

This is how the trolls operate: Tulsi Gabbard uses her so-called Hindu religion to draw attention to herself like this cute display for her young admiring reporter (Emmarie Huetteman) from the New York Times:

“While the others in the group griped and groaned on a recent Tuesday, Representative Tulsi Gabbard, 34, her Hindu prayer beads wrapped around a wrist for her daily yoga meditation, said little.”



When someone then points out some uncomfortable truths about Tulsi, a troll like Pam Ho cries religious bigotry.

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Re: Tulsi Gabbard Civil Beat
Date: December 07, 2015 04:53AM

Googling, Oh yes little prince Siddha Bellord, the star of the Internet flop Karma Kula. Siddha has the acting chops of some meat chops. He's a male bimbo with a dome stuffed full of insane ideas of succeeding Butler, being a famous movie star and any multitude of promises even a filthy rich cult leader couldn't fulfill.

Reincarnation Explained was actually written by Tusta Krishna Das! Chris Butler is way too much of a bone head, he just had to include sufficient shots for the idolization and worship of his dumbass cult members. In one of the shots my uncle and Aunty are sitting near him, completely enthralled in the presence of their God.

That would be Jackie Foster a.k.a. Kunti Dasi and Blake Foster a.k.a. Baladeva Das. These guys take 'flavorless cult members for life' to heights seldom reached by others. They are literally lumps of cult nothingness. Never done shit but worship and serve a cult leader.

They are both in the Wai Lana Namaste video next to my mum in NZ dressed like some cult of conservative farmers in matching tucked in flannel shirts.

Uniformity and mediocrity are just so comforting.

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Re: Chris Butler, Jagad Guru, Science of Identity
Date: December 07, 2015 02:35PM

Oh yes...dear sweet...sickly..(Gonorrhea) Siddha Bellord otherwise known as the Typhoid Mary of Butler’s Cult.

Lest we forget, here is a timely blog entry from 2013, researched by Flash.
Excellent work as always, Flash.

Quote: "Richard Bellord Sr and Jr; both bow down to guru Chris Butler

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Re: Chris Butler, Jagad Guru, Science of Identity
Posted by: flashlight_on_roaches ()
Date: June 24, 2013 01:32AM

Tell-you-lies wrote:
It is Wai Lana’s son who will take over, as Mr. butler does not have any children… and the children of Wai Lana were from another man and Mr. Butler stole his wife (Wai Lana) for his own… that is what the story around the group was said.. the inner workings could be different.. but that is what we were told…
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Here is that information I promised about Wai Lana and Richard Bellord’s eldest son. I still have more to write later regarding Richard and his continued devotion to Chris Butler. Richard Valentine (Siddha) Bellord-Windham, Jr. was born in 1975 making him 38 years old at present. I’ll call him Junior since he lays claim to his birth father’s royal blood and his step-father’s devotees.


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In this composite photo you can see that Junior has the same eyes, nose, lips and especially the chin of Wai Lana’s first husband. Junior describes himself as an actor and director. His level of artistic talent is on a par with Wai Lana and Chris Butler, all of whom being woefully inadequate. The idea of Junior being the heir to Butler’s thrown should be a cause for celebration for all of us who despise this megalomaniac and all his evil. Junior has serious flaws that even the efforts of his pushy bitch of a mother cannot hide.



Read on and let me know what you think.

Flash


…3. Butlers step children and selected followers train in Wu-Shu (chinese dance martial art) at Kailua beach park. Butler sometimes strolls by to chat and have respects paid to him. Be wary if you approach them, Butlers step son(a tall attractive asian-american male whose name coincidentally is Siddha, which is Butlers spiritual name too) is known to be extremely hot-headed and can become physically violent.

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I am the Anti Chris wrote: “…the school was shut down on orders of CB himself, twice.
the first time is because there was an outbreak of gonorrhea. yes, the sexually transmitted disease.
the top students, foreigners were allowed to take classes outside of the compound, and they would commute.
in between that, they would visit a “massage parlor” a front for prostitution. it is rampant in the 3rd world countries.

not educated on using any sort of protection, they,
(when i say they, it means the one person who is probably the closest to CB even to this very min)
got the sexually transmitted disease. school was shut down, ordered the foreigners to go home, and we were all interrogated in front of the altar swearing on our souls to tell every account that had happened, and what we knew.

the second time was when some students got busted holding each others dicks.
i dont want to go into details but there was some gayness, (who would have thought right?)
going around the students. probably experimenting and maybe just trying to make sense of all the gay lectures about pleasure and sex and sensory enjoyment.
the boys were married of right away to the girls, and then proceeded to have children as soon as possible.
this was around the time Tulsi got married too, if i am not mistaken…”

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This is the opinion I would add to this factual first-hand account of Anti Chris: It is alleged that he boy who contracted the venereal disease at the school was none other than Siddha’s step son Siddha Bellord. Anyone who knew that was sworn to secrecy. No one was supposed to know outside the school but the rumors leaked out anyway. It is ironic because the boys allowed in the school had to really be into it. At least in the beginning if a boy or girl had already been watching a lot of TV for example they would not be allowed in the school. But when Siddha Bellord got the disease all he got was a slap on the wrist and later made a star. It is also rumored that Siddha Bellord got hot bath water while the other boys were forced to bath in near freezing water. Quite hypocritical, wouldn’t you say?

Gonorrhea is the number 1 reported sexually transmitted disease in gay and bi men. Gonorrhea is a bacterial infection that can occur in your mouth, throat, urethra, or anus. Did Junior cause the epidemic or contract the disease through same-sex contact? In any case, Junior is a bad choice to replace “fearless leader” and all of us here at the Rick Ross Forum will be betting he and his lunatic mother will self-destruct before another generation can be enslaved by the Cult of Butler. Can you imagine a secretly gay man as the leader of an anti-gay cult? Wait a minute, isn’t Chris Butler himself alleged to be a repressed homosexual?


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Ian Brian Shimkoviak wrote about coming of age at the Chris Butler “school” in Baguio city Philippines. I posted those facts here and I’m guessing that Ian and his buddies know the dirty truth about Junior. How will Junior keep that truth from coming out?

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More about the flop “Karma Kula Warriors” and its creator, Chris Butler:

“Both series are produced by gurukulis from the ‘Haribol’s, Siddhasvarupananada Swami’s group that split off from ISKCON in the 70s. The stars of the series are the offspring of Siddhaswarupananada’s wife. They are Siddhas step kids. Oh but don’t tell anyone. This is a big secret. Siddha doesn’t want anyone to know he is the writer and director of the series. So don’t tell anyone please.”

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Chris Butler made a cuckold of Junior’s father; historical grounds for Junior to murder Butler and make his mother the Queen. Watch out, Chris.

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Junior is one of the principals at The Ninjai gang whose web site content was removed in October 2011. Nothing is ever really deleted from the web, so here is some old content:
“…The Ninjai Gang is basically a group of young stuntmen by day and animators, musicians and artists by night. We’re really tight. We’ve been buddies from when we were little kids. Our creative team is primarily made up of people from the ages of 15 and 25. We’re not all based in one location, but are basically spread out all over the world. Once we started doing Ninjai, we started collecting our old buddies from different parts of the world who have different talents and expertise in Flash and music and so forth to work with us from where they are. Our daily activities involve a lot of physical training, martial arts and stunt-work, so in our leisure time we find ourselves playing a lot of video games and surfing (on waves with surf boards, not on the internet) and stuff like that….As far as more details on names, etc. of the members of the Gang, notice we don’t have the credits on the Ninjai site. None of us is rich or has been to college or university, so our jobs are all low-tech work, washing windows, fixing up and selling used cars and stuff like that. It is a struggle, but we’re determined to make Ninjai continue.
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Junior has the same disregard for the law as Chris Butler and his deadbeat minions. Take a look at these offences ranging from driving without any license, to no vehicle insurance or safety check. Laws are for ordinary people, right Junior?


Forgive me for not previously knowing the term gurukulis, the children of the Hare Krishna movement. It is important for all of us here to remember that the gurukulis are all victims, including Bad Ass CB step-son, Junior:

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Re: Chris Butler, Jagad Guru, Science of Identity
Posted by: Vera City ()
Date: June 25, 2013 03:40AM
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Thank you Flash for all of this very important information.

Notice that the gurukulis did not get any support or help from within the cult until an “outsider” filed a law suit. It was when most of the gurukulis were in their thirties. The first wave of the Butler kult kids are now in their 30’s. It will truly be up to them to come forward and break silence. No help came for Bhakti from his father, a leader in the cult, nor from the cult itself. It had to come from ironically, from an ex member of the dreaded ISKCON camp [regarding Henry’s jailhouse visit].

Lessons can be learned from the ISKCON gurukulis. It might be very informative and helpful if adults who were raised in Butler’s cult contacted the group that successfully sued. Compare and contrast the similarites and differences. Learn from their mistakes as well as their triumphs.

I implore and humbly ask former Butler kids to make an effort to protect all the children now and in the future who will become damaged by this cult and their childhoods stolen as yours have been. The idea of karma is not meant to prevent you from acting and doing in this life for the benefit of others. You know the scam more than anyone. You hold the most powerful keys to bust this crazy person who uses his so-called enlightenment to enslave thousands for his own multimillionaire lifestyle. Do you think Butler saying he was sorry for what happened to Shyam’s sister is enough to make up for the abuses and lost years?

The culture you were raised in does not value helping others beyond the scope of being useful to Butler and his narccisistic mirror. Do not think that you can’t have an impact. Those gurukuli kids and their lawyer changed the face of ISKCON and forced it to reform, at least for a while in America. [There are continuous reports of abuse in the schools in India. see Child Abuse in Vrndavan Gurukula. The point is that children have no business being raised in ashram environments far from parents and the family structure…. but isn’t that precisely what all these gurus attack and undermine first!?].

You may or may not succeed in helping any children still in the cult, but you may prevent many from stringing their children along if they knew the truth about the outcome. I know it is hard to go contrary to some of the good people, your friends and family still in the cult, but don’t you think it would be worth the effort? Do you really think you can just go on with your life and put the past behind you if you hold vital information that can help others?

I can’t tell you what strategy to use. You may or may not agree with any of us on this forum on how to go about exposing the lies, but don’t you think it would be a worthy endeavor to at least try?

QuoteGANGANAM DASA
The Sampradaya Sun – October 9, 2008
by GANGANAM DASA

Oct 09, USA (SUN) — There has been a lot of discussion about the ISKCON settlement recently. I am a former gurukuli who attended Vrndavan, New Vrndavan, Gita Nagari, and other gurukulas in the late 70’s and early 80’s. I, along with many other children, in addition to being forcibly removed from my parents at age 4 or 5 endured many forms of physical, sexual and emotional abuse.
Before the lawsuit was pursued, around ’98 and ’99, I recall personally contacting different temple authorities about getting some employment through ISKCON. As many of us gurukulis are in our 30’s and because of the low quality of education given in the gurukulas, university entrance was impossible. While ordinary karmis are having successful lives — financial, emotional, and family stability — every gurukuli I know is struggling day to day, have not attained the dreams of having what karmis consider even average success: family, a comfortable living situation, reliable vehicle, etc.
I have to emphasize that when I was 4, I didn’t make the choice, unlike adults, to join a religion that celebrates poverty, lack of family, and viewing the world as a Kali Yuga hellhole that we must leave ASAP. Now as a result, many of us have grown up into exactly what was planned for us — emotionally disturbed, unskilled losers, while many others around us who had normal childhoods are prospering with happy lives complete with families of their own. It’s no wonder some have attempted or chosen to end their lives through suicide.
As I began, in ’98 I had many talks with the temple authorities about solutions, such as offering former gurukulis support, employment, counseling, help with going to college, etc., and I was never offered a single lead in any of these areas. It had to come down to someone outside of ISKCON — Windle Turley and a lawsuit — to make any change.
And on the topic of the amounts that are compensated to former gurukulis, I can tell you firsthand, since I am one of the Turley claimants. It works out to about two thousand dollars twice a year for 4 years — about enough to pay rent and bills for a short time. So anyone thinking there was a lot of money involved, they are simply wrong. It’s a pittance for a stolen childhood and a bleak future.

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Re: Chris Butler, Jagad Guru, Science of Identity
Posted by: dabcult ()
Date: June 25, 2013 05:25AM
Flash you do a marvelous job of research
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Vera as often talk about Butler “narcicisim “
and if you listen to this video and think of Butler …you will see the similarities

As far Vera invitation to ex members of going more public…..remember that Shyam Dodge just had
death treaths …from the cult

uncles love their young nefiews that are in the cult and are near of becoming adult
they cannot rock the boat without being ostrazise for LIFE

As far as the $$ that the gurukulis got ….its ridiculous
$5,000 if you have been sodomise a few times ….maybe $50,000 if you have been sexually abuse 50 times .
Then there is the incredible stories …as the one I heard a few weeks ago

An ex gurukuly girl who is now merried with 2 children of her own told me that
SINCE THE AGE OF 2 OR 3 SHE WAS SEXUALLY ABUSE BY HER DEVOTEE FATHER (SHAVE HEAD AND ALL )
AND WAS OFTEN TAKEN TO LOS ANGELES WHERE SHE SWEAR SHE WAS RITUALISTICALLY SEXUALLY ABUSE
BY HER FATHER AND SEVERAL OTHER MAN PRESENT IN THE ROOM ……SHE NAME BHAVANANDA (KNOWN PEDOPHILE ) AS ONE OF THE PERSON IN THE ROOM ON SOME OF THOSE OCCASION…..WHAT DID HAPPEN IS WAY DARKER THAN ANYONE NORMAL PEOPLE CAN IMAGINE
AND SHE DID NOT GET ANY OF THAT MONEY”
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Re: Chris Butler, Jagad Guru, Science of Identity
Date: December 08, 2015 03:09AM

Thanks, Vox, for re-posting one of my important research projects. The article with the links intact can be found at my blog Richard Bellord Sr and Jr; both bow down to guru Chris Butler

The CEI post no longer has the image files, but here is the important one again:


Richard Bellord Senior and Junior (Siddha)

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Re: Chris Butler, Jagad Guru, Science of Identity
Date: December 08, 2015 08:50AM

Mohana Giazzon in Deep Trouble

Five recent arrests plus two more last week for troubled Mohana Giazzon:


This news caught my attention due to the similarity to another cult-member’s troubles, the 2013 drug-related arrests of Tulsi Gabbard’s brother, Bhakti Gabbard. Another similarity is that Mohana is the same age as Tulsi Gabbard, 34, and both attended cult indoctrination boarding school in the Philippines...

If you know this young man, Mohana, or his brother, Dom, please reach out to them and get them some help. The brothers reportedly suffered abuse during boyhood when they attended a boarding school operated by the Science of Identity Foundation and it’s founder, Chris Butler AKA Siddhaswarupananda Paramahamsa...

This lengthy article on the Giazzons has been posted to the blog where it is much easier to edit and to keep updated.

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Chris Butler Mind Control Expert
Date: December 08, 2015 09:20AM

Flash, amazing article. Two DUI's in two weeks is pretty crazy, I wonder what the newest two arrests are?

I found this interesting clip of Chris Butler going off on a tangent about mind control:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THszVubUo7s

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Chris Butler a.k.a. Jagad Guru Siddhaswarupananda Paramahamsa is a cult leader who I was born and raised to serve and worship.

This video is Fair Use, all short clips from multiple half hour programs.

Chris Butler goes off on a tangent about Mind Control and Programming, showing he is knowledgable on the subject. Forgetting why he was even talking about it, Chris Butler ties it back by comparing it to the programming within his group.

Chris Butler actually admits he is also programming people but spins it to say his people are choosing to program themselves into his cult as the legitimate method to serving and pleasing God.

Following this are clips from the rhythmic and constant recital of the chants as the camera shows flocks of brainwashed young women gazing upon Chris Butler in adoration and worship to this cult leader.

Many of these women, my mother included value this cult leader above their own family, routinely and systematically asked to cut off association to anybody who has offended this megalomaniac millionaire cult leader. All given in loving brainwashed devotion by his willing servants and minions across the whole world.

The 3rd generation of children are being born into this man's mind control programs, taught to obey and worship him, to submit to him and to follow his will and every order.

My brother and I were raised as such, generation 2, and he has bred children into the servitude of Chris Butler, living in the same town, Kailua, Hawaii.

I am Rama Ranson, I was born to Robyn and Allan Ranson who have served this man my whole life. My little brother Sudama Ranson, a.k.a. Laks or Laksmana Ranson has been Chris Butler's loyal servant in Kailua, Hawaii for at least 15 years.

This is a hard core cult or High Demand Closed Group. Ex members are afraid to speak out, very few kids born into this cult have escaped.

I am proud to be one.


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Re: Chris Butler Mind Control Expert
Date: December 08, 2015 09:55AM

Rama Das (slave name) Wrote:
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> Flash, amazing article. Two DUI's in two weeks is
> pretty crazy, I wonder what the newest two arrests
> are?
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> I found this interesting clip of Chris Butler
> going off on a tangent about mind control:
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Thank you, Rama. The two new arrests are another DUI and a commerical burglary. See below. That video of Chris Butler is so revealing of his manipulations. Great find and grest editing!

Flash

Giazzon, Mohana (M/Caucasian) of Folsom
Reported On: 11/30/2015 in Sacramento County
For: Driving Under the Influence

11/17/2015 10:30 AM
Commercial Burglary
700 Block E Bidwell St
Beat 2
Mohana Giazzon, 34, of Folsom was contacted at location. Arrested for 459.5 PC and 647(F) PC. Booked at Sacramento County Jail

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