Re: Chris Butler, Jagad Guru, Science of Identity
Posted by: IanKoviak ()
Date: March 05, 2016 10:09AM

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Re: Chris Butler, Jagad Guru, Science of Identity
Posted by: IanKoviak ()
Date: March 05, 2016 10:13AM

As Twain said:

“It's easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled.”

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Re: Chris Butler, Jagad Guru, Science of Identity
Posted by: dharmabum ()
Date: March 05, 2016 11:01AM

I’m hoping you two could mend things up. You’re both doing great. I’d rather, our poster boy, Rama stays the way he is – raw, furious, clever and witty. No holds barred. In fairness to Flash, he has done some heavy liftings with his research and journalistic writing. You’re a lethal combination – the cult’s nightmare.

We’ve gone through this. It is sad if this goes down to that same dark moment this site went to. Before it gets really ugly and we lose focus on who or what the real enemy is, please rethink and reset things up, give each one some breathing space and avoid by all means further escalations. May the cooler heads prevail. Rick, could you intervene?

We are doing great. Help make the post-Shri Shim the beginning of the end for the Butler cult. They are like cornered animals now. Whatever the prosecution’s finding is, win or lose, the Hawaiian voters are more aware than ever. Our sexy, Hindu surfer girl is desperate to going federal. Money from Assad, Modi and lately, from Rick Reed will start pouring in (imho). Her chances with Hawaiian voters are close to nil. That is the key and all we need.

Justice for Sri!

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Re: Chris Butler, Jagad Guru, Science of Identity
Date: March 05, 2016 12:47PM

Well stated, Dharmabum.
We each have our own personal reasons for these many years of participation,
our own personal axes to grind.
Many of us, due to this insidious cult, have lost family members, lost relationships and lost time.
I think we can all agree though, we have one common goal and that is to see Butler and Co- terminated.
His one man crusade to control the World must come to an end.
Its been 4 decades and enough is enough.
As this issue (conflict) has risen before, it is hoped that we can all set aside our differences and push for the only possible conclusion: showing the world the true evil that is Jagad Guru, his brainwashed minions, and his ersatz puppet politician.
Their days are numbered- hold that thought- it is the only thing worth fighting for. And we can do this together.
Make it OUR reality.
Right an egregious wrong.

Justice for Sri.

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Re: Chris Butler, Jagad Guru, Science of Identity
Posted by: rrmoderator ()
Date: March 05, 2016 09:47PM

Let's try to be civil, kind and sensible on this thread.

Put the issue of research and public education first and don't get personal regarding the people posting here.

Frankly, there are just not that many people interested in discussing this group and it makes no sense to alienate anyone.

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Chris Butler: Secret Right Winger in Red Diapers
Posted by: Vera City ()
Date: March 07, 2016 01:43AM

Chris Butler is absolutely behind Tulsi Gabbard's decision to step down from the DNC to support Bernie Sanders. It's hard to run with the big dogs when you have a secret agenda. Old Chris is going back to the familiar family politics.

Chris's parents were died-in-the-wool, old time progressive and civil rights activists. Chris was weened on leftist mother's milk before becoming a right wing religious fanatic and loonie cult leader. He was one of those "red diaper doper babies" whose parents were sympathetic with socialist/communist causes and persecuted for their leftist views.

I am re-reading Willis Butler's book "Barbara, A Memoir of a Love Affair", an autobiography of his marriage and civil rights activism. Chapter XVII "Medicine as Politics", Chapter XVIII "The Red Doctor of Molokai". They probably knew Bernie Sanders or at least his activities as a young progressive. The book is a veritable history of the American Progressive movement in the last 60 years. If you want to understand Bernie and Butler, read the book. (That is if you can get a hold of a copy as the cult has suppressed it along with "Sai Speaks").

I find it interesting that cult leader Chris always put his father down vociferously in favor of his dictatorial, spiritual Nazism and ultra conservative political views. With Tulsi (and political backfire) Butler is now shifting gears and instructing Tulsi to support Bernie Sanders.

Always political, Chris even preached politics to the cult kids. As far back as 1984, Butler was raising (brainwashing) a generation of kids to think politically and perversely against mainstream society and the tenets of his parents. Instead, he teaches antisocial values and paranoia. This is evidenced by his talk "On Education" which was taken down from this forum by the cult. (Anyone wishing to see the full version can contact me privately). I am posting a few FAIR USE pages for critical review. I doubt Bernie Sanders has any idea about Chris Butler's influence and reach.

Contrary to his father, Butler sets up his followers by claiming infallibility so they will go along unquestioning with their gurus changing politics and whim. Now Butler is stepping back into his red diapers. Why? Familiar territory or where he can gain the greatest reach?


FAIR USE document On Education (Butler 1984) Butler talking about his early interest in politics:



FAIR USE document On Education (Butler 1984) regarding getting cult kids into politics:



FAIR USE document On Education (Butler 1984) Hate teachers, hate schools:



FAIR USE document On Education (Butler 1984) Mike Gabbard (aka Krishna Katha das) and his death cult teachings:



FAIR USE document On Education (Butler 1984) Screw history - We don't want you to develop critical thinking skills:



FAIR USE document On Education (Butler 1984) More on politics _ getting money:


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Re: Chris Butler, Jagad Guru, Science of Identity
Posted by: dharmabum ()
Date: March 07, 2016 01:54AM

Overheard:

“Absolutely [a Hindu can be in the White House one day],” Gabbard said. “When you look at the national issues that our country is facing, people are not qualified or disqualified because of their spiritual practice. People are looking for someone they can trust.”

"Trust?" Good luck with that. Three words: "Justice For Sri!"


“Hinduism is largely misunderstood today in part because of how it’s been portrayed in a negative and backwards way,” Gabbard said. “In essence, it’s a monotheistic and non-secular practice. It’s more about spirituality than sectarianism,” she added, describing her sect of Vaishnav Hinduism, Brahma Madhva Gaudy Sampradaya.

Haha, "non-secular practice?" The reason Hinduism is largely misunderstood in part because of wannabe Hindus like Tulsi and other Hare Krishnas who have cute Hindu names but no friggin' clue what Hinduism really is and just wouldn't shut up.

[www.theatlantic.com]



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Re: Chris Butler, Jagad Guru, Science of Identity
Posted by: IanKoviak ()
Date: March 07, 2016 05:36AM

Hey Rama, your pm box is full.

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Re: Chris Butler, Jagad Guru, Science of Identity
Posted by: Vera City ()
Date: March 08, 2016 12:57AM

I find it so ironic that when Chris Butler talks about how to educate the children, that he pushes politics and what he refers to as "real life" subjects. He tells kids that teachers are liars and history and science are useless... but politics is real.

Here is a self deluded man who thinks he is the infallible representative of g0d, is the founder of the Science of Identity Foundation who does not want to be identified as the man behind the Gabbards and others, and who doles out leftover food and toe nails to his disciples to purify their hearts. If anyone is critical of him, it is because they are "envious" or "enjoyers" or "demons".

Yeah, that's real life. [sarcasm]

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Chris Butler, On Education, page 8
"Big, big guys go over there and ask for money every once in awhile. This is politics. Politics is a lot of very real life things."

Yeah, that's the articulate guru. [sarcasm]

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Stupidity Meets Paranoia - Fearless Leader Speaks
Posted by: Vera City ()
Date: March 08, 2016 01:39AM

Fearless Leader Speaks More "Real Life"

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Chris Butler, On Education, page 5

"I went through 12 years of school and 2 or 3 years of college and I never really ever had a clear idea of the difference between an atom and a molecule and how the cells were made up with this...Why? So what? Who cares?"

"...when the CIA comes to our house and bugs our phone you become interested in our real life."

You can't make this stuff up.

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