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Posted by: DINGO ()
Date: October 26, 2019 09:14AM

So, RealLove has now posted an article on its website that 'Real Love is Not A Cult' and it goes on to explain why - in the usual RealLove way of course!


Very recently, despite this 'We are not a cult' post, Cult Leader and Guru of RealLove, has been at it again. His finger inserted unexpectedly where it had no right to go in a poor unsuspecting victim of a 'loving hold' being carried out by him. And as if this vile act was not bad enough on its own, he spoke some of the most disgusting and degrading words to this poor victim by his suggestion of what he wanted her to become 'for him'. And this is on top of all the other rubbish that goes on!

And yet, in this post that 'we are not a cult' RealLove continues to blame its former adherents and those who choose 'not to join' by labelling them as being unloved by their parents, unable to be loving, unable to accept love, not accepting RealLove as their saviour, not allowing themselves to be loved by RealLove, rejecting the love given them, living in fear, and being empty blablabla - the same old dialogue given to anyone who questions RealLove or leaves without having engaged fully or being trapped for eternity. Learning about love and being loving does not require principles, laws and ideologies as devised by Greg Baer or anyone else - it is not complicated or difficult! But groups like this make it so, and so cause more internal disruption and confusion about love than was ever had before becoming involved with the group. But as usual, anything loving that is not of the RealLove (or other 'loving' type of group) is always dictated as NOT REAL, fake, phoney, pretend, imitation etc. as only the cult, in this case RealLove, has the only genuine, authentic, real and God-given love that there is. When you need to create processes that develop addiction and codependance in order to get and feel loved, or be remotely loving (or so the adherent may think and believe so) then such a thing has digressed way off the road indeed.

Thoughts and prayers sent to the many victims still trapped within as well as those struggling to get their lives and families back after leaving it.

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Posted by: Cult_Free ()
Date: December 02, 2020 01:27PM

RealLove swears it is not a cult, and most particularly that it’s not a destructive cult. It is quite certain about this. In video ‘chats’ by cult leader and self-appointed guru Greg Baer, he tells people in no uncertain terms that his RealLove has been called a cult many times while he dismisses the claims as folly while laughing them off. He goes on to tell viewers that RealLove is only perceived to be a cult by people who he describes are ‘empty and afraid’ because, by his own dogma, they don’t know how to love and haven’t been loved before – meaning, the RealLove way. He, and of course his minions (in the form of mummies and daddies, wise men and wise women etc.), all vociferously state that RealLove is merely ‘coaching’ people in how to ‘be loving’; teaching them how to ‘love people unconditionally’, how to ‘learn to accept love’, and so on. Another post on this thread states very clearly how RealLove is most definitely NOT a therapeutic and healthy ‘helping’ profession, and goes on to clearly define the many reasons why, even though counselling and therapeutic methods are being applied in many different ways. And these ways, I might add, are being applied in such ways as to cause harm rather than good.

It gets all the more confusing because RealLove categorically states it is just ‘coaching’ while facilitating itself as a helping profession in the way it delivers this so-called ‘coaching’. The two concepts are at odds with each other because helping/therapeutic work serves to heal, enable and eventually set the individual ‘free’ whereas coaching is about empowering an already free individual to remove blockages and follow their dreams with confidence in who they are. Interestingly, while the techniques of both therapeutic helping and coaching are applied, albeit in the wrong ways for all the wrong reasons, they do not achieve the remotest element of healing, empowerment or any form of freedom. In fact, it is the opposite effect – which is the focus of destructive controlling cults per se.

Lately, the great cult leader has identified himself as a ‘motivational speaker’. That’s interesting because that just adds more to the mix of identity confusion that this cult has put upon itself in trying not to look and be like the very destructive cult that it is. It is probably a marketing move in order to detract from them being a destructive cult and becoming more widely known and accepted as one in the public eye. Regardless, RealLove has not determined whether or not it is coaching, a therapeutic helping service or, given the latest public marketing image, as merely a motivational speaking service. But one thing is for ‘sure’ and that is that regardless of what approach it defines itself as its followers, adherents, victims etc. all become infantilized, dependent, co-dependant, and reliant on RealLove for its actions, beliefs, thoughts, words, behaviours and attitudes (including choice of religion to follow) – which fits with neither of these identifications singularly or combined! I think this is what they call an ‘oxymoron’ – a total contradiction, an impossibility, cross purposes etc. I for one am thankful of the fact that for most of this year this disgusting organisation has been unable to meet up for ‘group’ sessions, interventions, and other ‘courses’ etc. that it runs. Why? Because it means that all those vulnerable people sucked-in by this tripe have not had to endure the well-known and long-existing cult process of ‘cradling’ – which RealLove calls ‘holding’ – be this clothed or naked, in a group situation or with just the daddy/mummy. Maybe these folks will have learned that love is all around them, unconditional and free, everywhere they look and right in front of them. Take away the dogma, principles, rules and double-binded cult ideology and with any luck some will have found their own way to freedom of the soul, got proper therapeutic help, counselling, or coaching etc. or have found more credible and inspiring books to read, videos to watch, and people to follow who are telling the truth and setting them free rather than reeling them in as prey for long-term control and financial ties. And this applies to all those other offshoots too! The ‘Loving Groups’ and the fake coaching businesses that former mummies and daddies of RealLove UK started up in order to keep it going ‘deceptively’ rather than openly and honestly. The cult churches (Mormon, JW, scientology etc.) are losing members and maybe destructive cult numbers will have gone down too! Not just to protect those who were once trapped as cult members, but to prevent innocent people being pulled in to them. Times are a changing.

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