Re: Richmond Outreach Center
Date: August 04, 2011 09:33AM
Mercy2all - Thanks for your post.
There are some people on here who may hate Pastor G. Most of us don't hate HIM, we hate what he is DOING. Love the sinner, hate the sin. Love sometimes requires accountability for change, and that's what we want - change. Pastor G is also an adult. You don't judge an adult based on their intentions - you judge them based on results. Pastor G has not PERSONALLY done what is required to keep the wheel moving, the people of the church have. So the results are for God on behalf of the servants - not the Pastor. God works in their hearts, not G.
Also, to speak for myself - I don't watch the services - I'm at church on Sunday mornings (not to pat myself on the back, but that's where I am), so I don't have the time to watch it. I reference things like the Facebook post which I quoted because it obviously focuses on the most important part of the service/week for the ROC as being the return of G. His name is Geronimo not Jesus. God has quite a bit to say about worship of idols - you can fill in the blanks on that one since you obviously know your bible :-).
Also, I wouldn't say that Pastor G isn't CAPABLE of handling and having a mature conversation, but he doesn't really give you much chance to find out - that's why he emails so much. If I was to confront him with a dire need or problem, I would enter a 2-3 MONTH waiting list to talk to him. Lots of time for prep work to paint someone into a corner with some scripture about why they are wrong in their argument/need wouldn't it be? And before you say that's ridiculous - many of the people who work there live there. It IS their livelihood. Disagreement, because these people don't make jack for wages, would likely mean homelessness for most of them. I'm sure they're lining up to balk authority (obvious sarcasm). Getting flagged a peace sign or getting a head nod does not suffice for guidance and wisdom, but if that works for you, that's cool.
I will agree with you on procuring an attorney. That seems smart. But then again, there are a lot of allegations coming his way. I would assume he's probably worried. I know that he at one point took people from the George Wythe program out of work for part of an afternoon to "meet at the big house" to show the progress. It ended up as a "don't visit this website and don't tell anyone about it." Strange, if it isn't true anyway.
I also agree with you on another point you made - and that is that no child should ever have to read this sort of thing about their parents. I would argue that if their parent/parents didn't make decisions which compromised their image in the eyes of their children, then this sort of thing would not be an item of worry. That's like saying that Sasha and Malia Obama should never hear or read anything other than their father is a great man and a wonderful visionary and leader - which is clearly not true. Again, another supporting example of not judging an adult on their intention, but upon the results achieved.
The bottom line is this - anytime anyone with half a brain comes to this website and can connect things they read here with things they've seen - they know the truth. People like you come on here and don't even try to defend him based upon biblical principle, but upon "errors" you find in peoples posts about what they've seen or experienced. You are another reason why this site exists - so that more people don't end up like you - obviously brainwashed.
As for the allegations with the women - I don't believe that anyone does know the exact number. I did run into Luke Chasteen about a month ago. We got to talking and catching up a bit and when I got around to asking him why he left the ROC, he told me, and I quote, 'I found out that G was f***ing my wife, so I left." Don't know how much more detail would be necessary. And it doesn't matter IF IT WAS 8 women - ONE WOMAN IS MORE THAN ENOUGH! He has yet to repent for ANY, much less one.
So please, mercy2all, the next time you post. for the benefit of everyone, present something more damning to our cause than how media is produced and makes it on air, as that really contributes nothing to this thread.