Malcolm WEsley WREST
Thank you very much Zeuszor,
That is EXACTLY what I'm looking for.....David unmasked!...and David then, later psychopathically lying about being unmasked....
May I be so bold to ask your opinion on another matter? I had always assumed that in the event of it going bust, (...it was always going to be just like the collapse of North Korea...complete denial and apparently utterly impregnable....then a laughable shambles on it's collapse, when all the rotten weakness within, was exposed),.....that David would at least retain a "core" of the devoted....those who could not as much, conceive of a future without him...
....it's just in the new "revamped" site......Where are Christine's postings? Or Ross's postings....Has Cherry, his own wife, walked out on him too?
You’re welcome, Mal.
What DM desires is to be at the center of a group of unthinking and unfeeling people who are totally obedient to him. What DM wants (basically) is control
. This is because he needs to feel powerful
. Anything over which he has no control is a threat to his narcissistic self-image and therefore (to him) must be defended against. That’s it, in my opinion, in a nutshell: what he wants is control for its own sake.
His little solipsistic pseudo-forum over there is just sad, too sad in my mind to be worthy of comment. He has his own little domain where he has complete control, just like God.
What it boils down to, is that DM hates anything or anybody that he cannot control. DM derives pleasure from manipulating people, period. If he figures he can take someone down the garden path by exploiting some ambiguity of language, then he will. But if that doesn't work, he has no problem with out and out deceit. It doesn't matter to him, the only point is to get a reaction. His behaviour is similar to that of serial murderers, who, once in custody, pretend to wish to divulge information about unsolved crimes, but really don't want anything but attention. He loves to make folks dance. He isn't concerned with his own credibility, just with exerting control over other people, whether it's by enraging them, or deceiving them, or as he must do in his work exploiting people's misery, feigning empathy. The only goal for him is to get a response that he feels he controlled. It's all about control and nothing about dialogue with DM.
I’ve said it before and I’ve said it again: in my mind, anybody who thinks that they can think up a way to reason with DM lovingly in order to show him the error of his ways and thereby induce him to make some positive changes in his life, is like somebody who is trying to figure out how to pick up a piece of shit by the clean end. Anybody who repeatedly attempts to do so is setting themselves up for disappointment. The rescuer syndrome is a vale of tears to the rescuer. No, trying to reason with DM is pretty futile, in my opinion.
Better to see him locked up somehow, for his own good and that of society. But he’s in hiding and that’s just as well; in a sense, this may be even a worse fate than jail, for him. In any case, he’s not recruiting anybody right now, or buddying up to somebody else’s kid, and that’s more or less all I care about. He knows he’s being monitored.
When I was at the conference last summer, I had dinner with this one person who is a therapist from the UK who works with people who are coming out of abusive groups. This person was in the States for the conference and some other business. At one point, I asked this person if they knew anything about a group that is active in the UK, and known as the Jesus Christians. They say, “Oh, yes, they’re the ones who got in trouble over that young boy some years back and…” and then this person slowed and said something like “…and then their leader was on that Jeremy Kyle program. I have a DVD of that show back at my office. Hey, weren’t you…” So I admit it, I got a kick out of being recognized by some non-American stranger at a conference as the “You’re not Jesus, Dave” guy from Jeremy Kyle. It was gratifying to know that we’d achieved that kind of exposure against the JC cult, and to be individually recognized for it.
My point is, that there are those who say that I have been, and continue to work against the JCs to feed my own ego, to satisfy my own need for attention, to satisfy my own supposed need for narcissistic supply as if I were just as evil as DM himself, as if zeuszor were the REAL cult leader. Such things are as absurd as they are untrue. None of this has done anything at all to enrich or edify my life in a direct way, nor have I profited from any of this at all, in any sense of the word. As soon as I start to organize press conferences and calling out the TV crews to warn the locals about Dave McKay, then somebody can accuse me of trying to generate attention for myself. Hell, I once nearly quit, but decided not to as my conscience would not allow it:
Sure, there is a bit of “fruit” to be shown for DM’s ministry. He apparently had some good kids and taught them some good things, and he’s helped people to read and understand the Scriptures in new and provocative ways, myself included. But mostly the McKays (DM and 3PO, that is) have nothing to show for themselves except for a lot of human suffering wherever they go. Some days I wish I’d never heard of the damn Jesus Christians.
Sometimes poking around these forums, for me, is like having to sit in a room that is full of second-hand smoke. It was good to get some “fresh air” over Thanksgiving break.