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frodobaggins
Does anyone know if Serge predicted the Melbourne earthquake?
Great post concerned.... you give me a good laugh while addressing such a serious topic.
Hi Frodo, I am sure he will claim it as the title of his son's relentlessly boring song goes. I tell you guys if you sit down and read that message, and that was only half of it, your mind boggles at the stupidity and arrogance of it, and then at the idea that someone can read it and actually nod in agreement. In order to get to that state you would have to subjugate every atom of critical faculty to the concept that everything you ever thought for yourself was wrong. And clearly this is what Serge has achieved with his dedicated students. If you read his FB post today he is at it again: Basically telling you that the mind is not be listened to...Well I ask Frodo and friends, what else to you listen with? everything you experience is happening in your mind. The thoughts you might think you are having in your heart are happening in your mind. You are using your mind to tell yourself to not to listen to your mind!
For the UM readers: Here's yet another simple test to see if Super Serge is right- Think of a nice peaceful scene. close your eyes. take it in...let it flow over you... can you FEEL how nice it is?...Now think of that hot guy/girl you saw the other day. Imagine giving them a passionate kiss.....how does that feel? Now take a breather...imagine Serge in speedo's.... How Does that feel!?? Now just in case you dont get it, clear you mind of thoughts- if you can- and feel your body....think about how it feels... can you feel anxiety, tension, relaxation...or nothing? If you are careful you will start to see those fleeting and pesky thoughts that haven't gone away with those sensations....Get the idea people?. Thats right,
you think then you feel. Not the other way around as He who is connected to the universe tells you over and over. Simple isnt it?
What Serge is getting you to learn is how NOT TO FEEL - that is why he doesn't want you to listen to emotional music so called, or to get involved with the energy of someone upset, or frustrated, or excited ( race-y man) or too happy ( pranic) or too sad ( astral) because in order to keep your feeling neutral ( In the jargon, 'esoteric') you have to stop your thinking. If you don't think as much, your feelings become Neutralized. "Wow, I have never felt so good, it just love"- If I keep in my body and check how I feel, then I feel great..... ( caught in a loop of ignoring my thoughts, watching my body to see how it feels, not sure if it is a thought, so checking my body to see what it feels, a bit nervous its a thoughts, so checking myself to see how it feels......)
Then people close to you are saying...why is my husband/partner/wife/son/sibling so boring and unresponsive? It's because they are being
Esoteric... ( code word for trained not to think or allow themselves to feel freely and spontaneously) Life is about feeling- True livingness is about learning about how your thoughts affect how you feel, and choosing to be responsive or reactive. The former is a life well lead, the latter happens when you remain unconscious to the truth of your own mind. It is when you become responsive that you get to create your life. That is mastery, but it requires thought. Not slavish subjugation of your thoughts with an endless naval gazing technique.
If you don't believe some random poster on a free thinking anti-UM blog, maybe consider the words of an acknowledged master and a charlatan. For obvious reasons students, I'm not sure you'll be that good at it, but you pick which is which:
Beware of someone who wants to teach you something. GurdjieffBelieve nothing, no matter where you read it or who has said it, not even if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense. –BuddhaEdited 1 time(s). Last edit at 06/20/2012 08:15PM by COncerned Partner.