The Anticult, thanks for bringing the thread BACK to New Age mumbo jumbo. I feared this thread was hijacked by conspiracy-theorists, who, quite frankly, bore me. I agree that The Late, Great Carl Sagan's Demon Haunted World is a great tome of critical thinking. I have applied it as I do Occum's Razor to cut through crap spewed on all topics in record time. While "New Ag
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The Anticult, In your same vein, please read the few paragraphs following from one "Brice Taylor" (a pen-name). Without question they show the falacy of the conspiracy folks by the very nature of their "champions": Mind Control: The Ultimate Terror Thanks for the Memories: The Memoirs of Bob Hope's and Henry Kissinger's Mind-Controlled Sex Slave(*This book
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YIKES! This forum is dissolving into conspiracy theory loons is it? What's next? "Fire cannot melt steel! 9-11 was an inside job!" Please spare us. The fear of secret mind control, psychic control, CIA, Illuminati, et al is a little unbelievable and impossible. What next? The Masons run the Skull and Bones society...the "Jews" run Hollywood and the banking indus
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And here is something more disturbing about Dr Ross...He was recently awarded a high honor by Scientology in exposing the "evils" of psychiatry. And as far as citing Brice Taylor as an expert??? Brice Taylor appears more ready to be fitted for a straight-jacket than to be a realiable source of any information. "I was tortured by BOB HOPE"???!!!
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I for one find it difficult to believe that people can be controlled sublimally. People are just too stupid for that. As far as Dr. Ross goes, anything he says or claims is met by me with extreme skeptism. Now I am sure he is a wonderful psychiatrist (although I don't believe in his "repressed memories" from childhood sexual trama...Look at the trama of children that survived th
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Here is an exhaustive link from some character that has bothered to listen to all the innane channeling of Destini. He comes up with more contradictions and inconsistencies than ever: And here is ONE link to their money-making schemes (i.e., selling stuff to the believers). (follow the money) And Destini on MySpace. My conclusion from these sites is that either the "
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Here is a funny little webpage that randomly generates "The Wisest Human's" preachings...you can hit the "reset" button at the bottom right to make a new random page. Funny. After reading the anti-Jewish, anti-gay and anti-black screeds of his on TimeCube, this random stuff makes a heck of a lot more sense than his actual scientific (theological) theories. And yes.
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This guy has been bouncing around the internet for awhile, but I've just seen him. He is clearly believing himself to be a "new religion" where he is "higher" than all of us mortals and, of course, God. Anyone in Georgia (USA) ever meet this cat? I think he lives there. He seems to truly believe his bizarre world view and that if we fail to believe it too, then we a
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Sandman, What an odd little group. I am more interested in the financial aspects of the group. Someone somewhere is getting paid, most likely from the members. If there is no money associated with either joining or buying tapes or DVDs I would be surprised. How much does Bernie (the) Poolman make? Are there any financial statments? Is there a clear leadership tree?
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Nerveno, For the record,to me, yes it sounds like "nerveno1" is a troll trying to mock you and/or others here. To me it sounds like "nerveno1" is trying to get an "attack" on his/her posting. Ignore him/her. One thing on Rickross.com you will find is it does unfortunately attract a load of trolls who try to belittle users here or cause anger here or to be &q
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Welcome, GEB. Please post about your (quote):"uneasy about the place I line in right now". This site is 100% anoyomous and only the information you give here could identify you personally if you choose to do so. Please start a topic about your experiences, if one here doesn't already encompass it, otherwise, please add to the active discussion. You will find a great suppor
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Hi all, There is a new Teen Challenge thriftshop near me in New England (USA...north and east of NYC, for our international friends). An attorney in my condo complex is very active with them as a "charity". Since I live in a community situation, I do not confront the fellow resident on the bizarre antics of this abusive cult. I am frustrated often when I see the "Teen Cha
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Rangdrol, Wow! You actually worked for that cat? I wasn't aware he was still alive! My dad (long dead now) talked about seeing Rev. Ike get out of a rolls-royce or some car and always assumed he was a scam and rip-off artist because of that.
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I won't use the term "evil", however I would say that cult leaders and MOST new religious movement creators are certainly aware of the kool-aid they are ladeling out. My mom always said if I wanted to get rich quick, just start a new religion. She raised me on this observation of her's which is probably why I have "rubbed elbows" with numerous cults but never g
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I have been "battling" New-Age nonsense for a long time. I have tried to "free" friends from this as well with some small success. As many here post, The New-Age-Crapfest runs deep and affects many facets of life and living. I had the great "pleasure" of attending a "Channeling event" (sort of like the idiocy of Seth) with friend. The "channele
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FreeAtLast, thanks for the film suggestion! I just added it to my Netflix list! I can't wait to see this award winning documentary!
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I just today yanked my copy out of storage. I just finished the 10 page chapter on DiOrio. I don't think he is an "evil" man, just a huckster. Now my dilemma, do I give a photocopied chapter on DiOrio to them or not? I've turned them onto Rick Ross' sites, and they did a "search" for DiOrio and said they came up with nothing so they ASSuMEd he was "
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Thanks, laarree! I have a copy in my storage room! I had forgotten all about this book....and yes...I bought it new in '89. Thanks, again!
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sawthelight, sorry about calling that "cult warning signs" since that was "warning signs of a potentially unsafe leader /group". Here are other signs that are from members in said unsafe groups....did these apply to you (prior to your escape?). Ten warning signs regarding people involved in/with a potentially unsafe group/leader. 1.) Extreme obsessiveness regarding th
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sawthelight, here are Rick Ross' own description of "cult warning signs". Do any or all of these apply to your experience at ROC? People on this forum would find your insight to be especially enlightening and useful! Ten warning signs of a potentially unsafe group/leader. 1.) Absolute authoritarianism without meaningful accountability. 2.) No tolerance for questio
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concernedNYer, Here is a link (from the banner at the top of this page). There is information from Mr. Ross on Help from cults, interventions, etc. Please see if this information is helpful. I have never been involved in EST or Landmark so I am only an outsider looking in at the horror stories told by 'escapees'. Perhaps someone who has gone through the abuse can give
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FreeAtLast and sawthelight, rrmoderator brings up a very valid point. You two have been active members of SetFree and ROC. Are there free and fair elections of the BOD? Does the by-laws allow for removal of Pastor G and his (soon to be incarcerated) father? sawthelight, you basically said that Geronimo laughs in the faces of anyone questioning him and said the church's own website
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ylhall, I am happy you are over your drug addiction/alcoholism/solicitation or whatever your problem was. I am sure you are "saved" and "born again" probably for the first time in your life. The excitment of being a "newbie" in a religion or cult is something everyone on this website can attest to in their own lives at one time or another. Contrary to your
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ylhall, here is some things to mull over...this is where your diety, Pastor G, will be eventually leading you. Pay attention to the wisdom of FreeAtLast.
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ylhall, Isn't it possible, just a little bit, that some of the ex-members of ROC may be raising valid points of which you, as an apologist and active member, may be blind to? Learning that your god(s) have feet of clay is a horrible thing but necessary for your recovery. Here is a little bit more info for you to process.
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rosieposie, contact weesue by clicking on his/her name and then click on "send a private message". Rick Ross doesn't allow other type of contact (to protect his members). Hope that helps
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watching4amorc says: "Christian Bernard, the Imperator of AMORC and H. Spencer Lewis welcome dissenting opinion about their organization." Nerveno responds: "It is clear to me you are a theorist and nothing more, all you have done is copy and paste info from a blog. That proves nothing. You are doing nothing good for yourself with your attitude. You have not spoken about y
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rosieposie, I could find nothing at the Rick Ross Institute on this group. If they are "really conservative" like Southern (USA) Baptists, I don't know if that would officially qualify as a cult. What experiences did you have at the Wales location that would lead you to this conclusion? Best wishes, Sparky
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Has anyone had any experience with Father Ralph DiOrio of Worcester, Mass. (USA)? Supposedly this cat has been active for decades and yes, he is a Catholic priest and runs a Charasmatic-movement style church. "Admission" to see him work his miracle MoJo seems to be $10 (US) a head. He is supposedly "World Renown". Friends of mine are true believers in his "gift&qu
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Marzkizer, This sounds like a job for the law. IF you had full legal custody, then isn't your ex in violation with the law and is in essence, a kidnapper? Since she has abducted your children over state lines (CA to CO), I would contact the FBI since this would now be in their jurisdiction. Good luck.
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