After looking through hundreds of posting histories, I believe that it is possible that there is some type of a glitch in the system, which in rare cases could cause odd posts by other users to appear in someone's history. Out of hundreds, I saw three instances where this may have occurred. With that bit of doubt, I sincerely apologize to Aardvark for assuming that he posted six years ago as
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Quote Re: The Living Word Fellowship, The Walk, John Robert Stevens Posted by: Ohman? () Date: August 21, 2019 06:23PM Sorry to change the subject, but since we're all here, does anyone know what it cost to send a kid to Centers of Learning ,Sepulveda in the 80's/90's? Ohman, I don't remember. But I looked up the current costs, and to send a child to Jr. High or High S
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An interesting post from slandjt back in 2015 which probably will strike a chord with many. Quote Re: The Living Word Fellowship, The Walk, John Robert Stevens Posted by: slandjt () Date: September 17, 2015 10:45PM I've been reading these posts for a couple of years and thought I would weigh in now. I came into the Walk as an impressionable young teenager in the late 60s. My parents
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Aardvark, I suggest that you try to clear up this problem with the moderator. It seems odd that none of my friends have weird former user names showing up in their old posts. Just bad luck?
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Aardvark, go to one of your posts and click on your user name. Then click on "show all posts". I did not make this up.
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A search of our "old" friend Aardvark's history on this forum to follow. Please note that a mere six years ago he/she posted on a Buddhist thread and claimed to be a child. He/she was banned from the RR Forum for being an underage poster. So much for 47 years in TLWF.
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QuoteCult Education Institute Destructive Cult Dynamics What types of people become leaders of unsafe and/or destructive groups? Many cult leaders seem to be narcissistic personalities often fantasizing about messianic visions that will change the course of human history, while appearing to have little if any conscience. Some make claims that they are the exclusive voice of God, "psych
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Quote Posted by: Aardvark () Date: August 16, 2019 06:11PM Puddington, Well said, but I stand by my previous statements. This issue is complex because it is largely theological and would require a long winded biblical debate. The first question here is whether one believes as the charismatics do, for example, that God can and still does many of the same things that He did in the Bible. If yo
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Maybe that's why JRS brought The Threat Within sermon. The answer was always within us. We were taught not to listen. : (
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Aardvark, your point about JRS not promoting quasi-occult practices leaves me somewhat dumbfounded. In the late sixties and early seventies, the Bless Ins became a Saturday night staple. Right hand under, left hand over...because that's the direction the blessing flows. Belief in demons, casting out of demons and demon possession were all big. Physical signs in the body to give insight into
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Quote Posted by: Aardvark Date: August 15, 2019 11:17PM Yes, CLW in North Hills. I don’t think my experience was unusual. All those I hung with were also having very positive experiences. And as you probably know CLW continues with about half the number that were there before the implosion (I haven’t been there in almost a year). And obviously those who continue don’t feel they were abused.
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QuotePosted by: changedagain () Date: August 15, 2019 02:17PM Can anyone confirm this? A post by 'Invisible' from January of 2014: I found a marriage record for JRS and Marilyn on 9/8/80, which is almost a month prior to the show wedding in Anaheim. IMO, it's entirely possible that Invisible was invited to a "for show" reception months before that. We have heard
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Changedagain and SunnyFord and all other receivers of those infamous birthday cards...I suppose that G&M really put a lot of effort into that gesture of "love and caring". Oh, wait, it was actually the same signatures copied year after year. What a crock. Though I suppose it was the least they could do for people giving up their lives, families, bank accounts and sanity for them. :
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Quote Re: The Living Word Fellowship, The Walk, John Robert Stevens new Posted by: changedagain () Date: August 11, 2019 01:22PM puddington Wrote: If they end up moving all the bodies in the Shiloh cemetery to the cemetery on Nutmeg, isn’t this going to be difficult for moving JRS? Isn’t his body encased in a slab of concrete? I think this would be a good job for a couple Yaspers.
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QuotePosted by: changedagain Date: August 10, 2019 06:04PM 1,150,094 page views to date... I admit, early in the year I expected this group to completely disintegrate. Not so--at least not yet :) The reports of the demise of this forum are greatly exaggerated.:)
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Quote Posted by: changedagain () Date: August 08, 2019 09:14AM The remains of loved ones are an obstacle to development. Off site--out of sight. Yes. "Your loved ones are impeding development" would be a poor choice of words (IMO). Yes, for once, the families' wishes should be honored. I remember at a Shiloh summer camp during the early nineties while presenting t
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Thanks for posting this, puddington. Body of article below. Quote A Monday work session with the Kalona City Council and Shiloh directors brought up a potentially touchy situation. Shiloh has a small cemetery and columbarium in the middle of its 200-acre property, which the city would like to see moved in order to proceed with the proposed voluntary annexation of the church propert
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Quote Re: The Living Word Fellowship, The Walk, John Robert Stevens Posted by: Onion () Date: August 04, 2019 02:34PM There was a power of attorney and a will prepared in March or April of 1983. JRS was completely incapacitated and rarely awake from March 10, 1983 until he died in June. Bill Maybee spent hours sitting in JRS' yard practicing to forge JRS' signature. He forged JRS&#
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QuoteRe: The Living Word Fellowship, The Walk, John Robert Stevens Posted by: Onion () Date: August 04, 2019 02:34PM JRS could have amazing and impressive events and performances any time – he had the slave labor and the financial resources of the people that he used as he pleased. So that's where RH learned this way of life. Of course. They were all users and abusers.
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Changed, thanks for re-posting the above by Lilith. It shows a lot of insight. Quote Re: The Living Word Fellowship, The Walk, John Robert Stevens Posted by: Lilith Date: November 10, 2018 06:33AM "Some of us were raised to question everything in a time when children were seen and not heard and to do as they were told, that was rare at that time. If you are here telling everyone that
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Quote Re: The Living Word Fellowship, The Walk, John Robert Stevens new Posted by: dbc () Date: July 28, 2019 11:14PM Hi! Anyone know what's going on in San Diego? I've heard some rumors about JM and a connection with Alaska ... dbc, you can listen for yourself here:
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Quote Re: The Living Word Fellowship, The Walk, John Robert Stevens new Posted by: dirtybrushes () Date: July 27, 2019 12:37PM That recorded message just about caused an "upward flow" of my lunch in my esophagus! All the lingo could have been pasted up from random splicings of tapes from the '70s. The whole discourse on "taking the beach head" was classic "you k
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Have you ever heard of Nouthetic Counseling? It is counseling based only on the Bible. While that is not exactly the same as the counseling "offered" by TLWF pastors and others, I have come to believe that both are unhelpful and counterproductive. In my opinion, people seeking answers to problems should see a professional, licensed therapist. Church counselors have to speak the party li
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I saw this quote and it spoke to me because in many ways we have been institutionalized people. :( "When untangling from abusive churches there are lots of questions to work through and to investigate. It can be a lonely journey due to the defensiveness of institutionalized people."
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Thank you, Ohman? Glad to know you are still here. :)
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Trigger warning. Listen to a former high level ministry from TLWF bring a message to the Whitestone Farm compound in Alaska last January.
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Lol, Ohman? Big doings on other forums. Crickets here for several days. Thanks for making me laugh. :)
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Quote Re: The Living Word Fellowship, The Walk, John Robert Stevens Posted by: changedagain () Date: July 19, 2019 02:40PM NancyB Wrote: > I wonder if anyone ever asked JRS, "What did You > u do?" My guess- not being there was that he was > drunk and she got home late from the Ball room. > Snark! Yeah, that's more likely than the official narrative :) Y
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NancyB, I hope that you will change your mind. Your input here is valuable.
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OK, my theory only: JRS passed out waiting on the Lord (in a drunken stupor), woke up to pee, and happened to notice that Martha still had not been obedient to die. They had words. (JRS: Why aren't you dead yet? Martha: Why aren't you like Christ yet?) Alarms were sounded, special people were awakened to practice what amounted to black magic voodoo spells against the pastor's wi
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