MONEY & YOU Seminar Made My life Worse! .... IMPACT OF MY SEMINAR EXPERIENCE TODAY 1. Do not trust people. 2. Spiritual, philosophical and ideological void. 3. Aloneness better than being with manipulative people. 4. Still deeply hurt. 5. Ripped off Spiritually and Financially. 6. Innocence and belief in human kindness ripped away. 7. Feel psycholog
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Money & You Seminar ... What It Really Did! Causing Breakdowns in Many Participants! "Money & You" seminar used hypnosis and mind control extensively throughout the 3 1/2 days, without our knowledge or persmission. These methods were directly responsible for the many psychological and emotional breakdowns endured by participants. Saturday night's the "
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Excellerated Business - Money & You Seminar MONEY & YOU - HOW TO MAKE MONEY? This is all I remember on what they taught on the subject. It will take the mystery out of anyone contemplating doing the seminar. 1. Find your True Purpose and the money will come. 2. Join a MLM group. 3. Buy Real-Estate and rent it out, so "it" pays the mortgage, instead of
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Money & You Seminar - APPLICATION FORM re: "Health Condition Questionaire" The following questions should ALERT to exactly what kind of seminar it is, 1. Are you under the care of a Physician or a Psychiatrist? 2. Have you ever been hospitalized in a mental institution for any reason? 3. Are you receiving medications? see - If you answered "
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"If You Want to be Rich and Happy Don't Go to School?" Robert Kiyosaki's First Book Dated early 1990' Quotes from book:-Quotep.67 In reference to Mack Trucks, "....mistakes, I called them 'learning experiences' and 'taps on the shoulder' because I feel they are messages telling me I don't know something that I need to find out. If,
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FALSE CLAIMS MADE BY "MONEY & YOU" SEMINAR - Excellerated Business School "Have you ever done something - one thing that Totally Change your Life Forever? If you want Breakthrough Results --- You Need a Breakthrough Experience! ---You'll Learn so Fast, It will Blow Your Mind". The Truth Money & You is the one thing that will definately
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MONEY & YOU PRESENTERS COULD WIN ACADEMY AWARD! I recall the many stories Wayne Morgan told in Money & You. They were great Academy Award winning performances all designed to jerk the heart-strings and manipulate emotions from the audience. A classic example of this is when he told the story of Bucky's (Buckminster Fuller) child dying in his arms. Wayne became Bucky h
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Money & You Seminar - Excellerated Business Schools Used HYPNOSIS, MIND-CONTROL, THOUGHT REFORM & PRINCIPLES OF INFLUENCE PERSONAL CONFESSIONS & "HOT SEAT" We were subjected to may processes that involved each person revealing PERSONAL INFORMATION in a small group setting. However many people were also subjected to "public confessions". Wayn
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MIND CONTROL, THOUGHT REFORM, HYPNOSIS & PRINCIPLES OF INFLUENCE USED IN Money & You Seminar - Excellerated Business Schools GAMES PLAYED 1. 'Simon Says' Althought 'childish' i.e. that was the point, to put us in the position of CHILD. This game was played early in the piece to establish the Presenter as 'leader' and 'daddy' i.e.
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Money & You Seminar FREE INFORMATION SESSION - GUARANTEES PURCHASED SEATS AT 'MONEY & YOU' & OTHER EXCELLERATED BUSINESS SCHOOL SEMINARS! Once you attended the Free Information Session you were basically 'Signed, Sealed & Delivered'! These Information Sessions were run by the franchise group promoting the seminar. Honey basically dripped
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Money & You Seminar Uses Mind Control, Thought Reform, Hypnosis and Principles of Influence Without Knowledge and Consent of Participants At the start of the 3 1/2 days of this seminar we had to sign an Agreement Form to the following: 1) Do not wear watches. We lost perception of time - i.e. Hypnosis. 2) Stay seated at all times. We were assured 'breaks' wou
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Money & You Seminar Presenters Promote Scientology "Auditing/Clearing" ASSISTING AT MONEY & YOU 1. I assisted at 'Money & You' that Wayne Morgan presented. As any other assistant would remember it was a mammoth task. (1). Removing and replacing tables and chairs between breaks. The room was constantly changed. As a participant I recal
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An explanation is in order here. The depression I experienced before the rebirther training was caused by my breakdown in a LGAT called 'Money & You' I attended previously. I didn't know what hit me. So the very nice and helpful rebirthers at this LGAT (see my other posts LGAT "Rich Dad Poor Dad, Robert Kiyosaki Exposed" andExcellerated Business Schools Money
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Hello Everyone, Thank you for your interesting posts and points made. Yes I remember doing all that screaming and beating the pillow and mattress too. At the time I thought it was helpful as it seemed to shift me out the depression I was experiencing previously. As time went on though, I found whenever I returned to 'normal' life (between rebirthing and attending other LGAT) I w
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REBIRTHING "DISILLUSIONED WITH REBIRTH TEACHERS DOUBLE STANDARDS" 1. Free thinking and independent thought was encouraged until students challenged and questioned the teacher. In frustration she turned on a student angrily, "You are slappable!" That put an end to further challenges. 2. Many students who couldn't afford the training fee were still pressure
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REBIRTHING CONTRADICTIONS & LIES 1. We, the student and rebirther, only needed to be half a step ahead of the person we're rebirthing. 2. Charge high prices for rebirthing or any other service because it shows you value yourself and skills. Charging low prices meant lack of self worth and self esteem. 3. We were special and privileged to receive the knowledge
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Excellerated Business Schools Creating Wealth Seminar - Rev. Ike Tapes Robert Kiyosaki & DC Cordova "Creating Wealth Seminar" is Part 2 of Money & You. Wayne Morgan played a tape by Rev. Ike and we had to 'recite out loud' over and over again, just like little children in the classroom, "I am a Money Magnet!" "I loooove Money and Mone
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Hi Jocie6, Just read about your sister. Hope you've received the help you, your sister and family need so far. Louise Samways, a psychologist in Victoria, Australia, wrote a book "Dangerous Persuaders" and is fully aware of all the techniques these cult use i.e. hypnosis, thought reform and mind control etc. Her contact details I believe are - 183 Wattletree Road, Malver
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EXCELLERATED BUSINESS SCHOOLS - EST/FORUM/LANDMARK & SCIENTOLOGY CONNECTION THE HUNGER PROJECT The Hunger Project was Werner Erhard's baby of EST, and it was promoted in 'Creating Wealth' (Part 2 of Money & You). I recall all participants being asked to bring along an extra $100. Towards the end of the 3 1/2 day seminar there was tremendous pressure to donat
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Hi there, Would like to hear about some of your 'horror' stories concerning Leonard Orr! I have read your other posts about your experience with rebirthing. Did he 'over step boundaries' with students? I've heard stories about other 'gurus' having sexual relationships with students, which have really messed them up.
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REBIRTHING "FALSE MEMORIES" There's an important factor to be mentioned about 'rebirthing'. When one is rebirthed they are in a highly suggestible state. If music chosen by the rebirther has, for example, a church bell ringing, then it makes sense the person thinks they're recalling a past life as a holy monk living in a monastery. GROUP REBIRTH Again one
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REBIRTHER TRAINING AUSTRALIA I remember alot of students going through turmoil in personal relationships because this training made us think we were privileged to receive this 'secret knowledge'. Many thought their spouses/partners were 'not good enough' or were 'suppressive personalities'. The only thing that could remedy that was to CONVERT THEM. This is when
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REBIRTH TRAINING "Sex & Relationships" This particular weekend was very intimidating to the students. There was a process where each of us, including the teacher, took turns to lie down on the floor and the rest of the students stood encircling that person looking down on them and firing many personal and intimate questions at them about their sex life. As the proce
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BREATHARIANS Thanks for the interesting information. I actually met a 'breatharian' at one of my LGAT I was assisting at. However didn't know it at the time. Found out later, as it was kept 'very low-key'. He was very thin, withdrawn, quiet, placid, seemed without ego and certainly was different from the rest of the participants. I believe he became a breathari
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BREATHARIANS I'd read about 'Breatharians' in the Survival Into The 21st Centrury by Viktoara Kulvinskas many years ago when I was studying alternative lifestyles. Apparently there are people who live on oxygen alone. Their belief that oxygen has all the nutrients to sustainlife. It is done in slow and progressive stages over many years. 1. Cutting our meat and a
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Hi there Towest, Thanks for the information about the methods used in the Iron Curtain. Very interesting! If you feel strongly about going to the media then so be it. Perhaps 'Sixty Minutes' would be a good one to approach. I am not prepared, on the other hand. Eventhough I am still angry and hurt. It would have to take more than 2 people to convince me to do the same. U
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REBIRTHING, BREATHWORK & REBIRTHER TRAINING IN AUSTRALIA After my 'breakdown' in my LGAT, Excellerated Business School Money & You Seminar, I was steered into a number of New Age therapies to supposedly help 'fix up' the damage caused by my birth trauma and dysfunctional upbringing, however in fact caused by the LGAT. I had several rebirthing sessions.
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The House of Help" and "The Pan Academy" Founder Raja Raja's Claims, Contradictions and Lies! Most of the following is "House of Help" Jargon and Loaded Language, understood only by a Devotee. 1. Raja discovered the 4 Foundations of Life i.e. Health, Home, Family and Work However, other authors have said the same thing. Nothing original! 2
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Hi Towest3, Thanks for your reply. It's sad to hear what happened to your wife. I know someone who has bi polar. There are periods for her when she's really happy, active and out and about and then other times when she's severely depressed and sleeps all day. I really hope your wife can heal and recover the best she can under the circumstances. Recovery is different for eve
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More quotes, Groups That Can Harm Many people who attend a personal development group say it was a wonderful experience that changed their lives for the better; others say it had no real effect except to empty their wallet. I fully accept that the psychological techniques they use are so powerful they can cause dramatic shifts in beliefs and attitudes within hours, and that sometimes thi
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