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14 years ago
ostracizedone
"These false apostles for a number of years have been on a heavy recruiting drive around the world. Holding pastors conferences and one on one meetings they seek to recruit church leaders to join under them as vassals (a person under the protection of a feudal lord to whom he has vowed homage). (Of course another analogy would be to call the apostles cardinals seeking more bishops and priest
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14 years ago
ostracizedone
False apostles are rising up in New Zealand, the United States, Australia, the United Kingdom, and in other countries. They plan to subjugate (to bring under control and governance as a subject, to conquer) Churches and their leaders. From what we can tell these "Super Apostles" aim to build a fiefdom (a medieval feudal estate) of churches with themselves as the lords, second only to Go
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14 years ago
ostracizedone
Sprit Of Error- Examining The Apostolic / Prophetic Movement Yet, church leaders today who quote this verse don’t mention that it was referring to all the people of Israel. They act like the verse was speaking only about leaders — and that it applies only to them. This verse has nothing to do with criticizing or questioning church leaders. In fact, many Bible passages warn us to c
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14 years ago
ostracizedone
It has recently become popular to speak of "the five-fold ministry," a system of church government with apostles, prophets, evangelists, pastors, and teachers. The neo-Pentecostal "Restoration" movement and its offshoot, "kingdom now" teaching, claims that one of the things which God is "restoring" to the church is this five-fold ministry. The sole prooftex
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14 years ago
ostracizedone
Everyone In A Cult Has Friends Video
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14 years ago
ostracizedone
How Cults Work Video
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14 years ago
ostracizedone
"Being Aware Of Cults" Video
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14 years ago
ostracizedone
Signs You Might Be In A Cult Video
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14 years ago
ostracizedone
Common Characteristics Of How Cults Operate For abusive cults, the key word is CONTROL CONTROL CONTROL by Submitting to the Leadership - leaders tend to be the absolute end, looked to as prophets of God, as specially anointed apostles. Or they can be a strong, controlling, manipulative personality who demands submission even if he changes his views or conflicts occur in doctrine
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14 years ago
ostracizedone
Apostles and Prophets Today Remember: just because one performs miracles, even inside a church, does not mean God is working. We should be more on guard inside the church than we would like to think. In 1 Corinthians 4:6, we are told no to go beyond what is written. If one contradicts the apostolic writings and teachings, then they are false (2 Cor.11:14). Those who go beyond the word h
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14 years ago
ostracizedone
10 Warning Signs of a False Teacher/Prophet/Apostle-Warning ,turn down the music! lol
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14 years ago
ostracizedone
False Prophets " Agony of Deceit"
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14 years ago
ostracizedone
*Spiritual Abuse* is sometimes difficult to define. But in general it happens when: # ‘a leader with spiritual authority uses that authority to coerce, control or exploit a follower, thus causing spiritual wounds’ (Blue, p.12) # one or more persons in a relationship is damaged spiritually and such wounding or scarring affects their relationship with God so that they develop a distorted
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14 years ago
ostracizedone
What Does The Word Say About Sexual Immorality,Adultery,Seperation or Divorce? Clue:Pretty much the opposite of any and/or all teachings you will hear or receive from Tp What Does The Word Say About The Love of Money,Coveting Material Things,Honoring Both Your Mother And Father (biological) and Dwelling in Truth,Love,Harmony,Selflessness, Integrity,Grace ETC.? Clue:Pretty much the oppo
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14 years ago
ostracizedone
QuoteBraveHeartBuddy you make another great point at how these guys enabel each other. Remember Tony got his start attending Robert Schuller's Crystal Chathedral. Mike got his start following the self appointed apostle-prophet Tony Cunningham and Jeff Barns is following Mike V. Money monkey see,Money monkey do?
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14 years ago
ostracizedone
QuoteostracizedoneTp's view on sexual issues is apparent to all who have been exposed to it."I know plenty of people who have slept around."He actually states that the cure to 90% of women's problems is sex and sleep?Mention of sex with food?I am not sure but I do believe there was even mention of getting your children started early.Christians are to be sex-perts!It is worth i
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14 years ago
ostracizedone
Tp's view on sexual issues is apparent to all who have been exposed to it."I know plenty of people who have slept around."He actually states that the cure to 90% of women's problems is sex and sleep?Mention of sex with food?I am not sure but I do believe there was even mention of getting your children started early.Christians are to be sex-perts!It is worth it!Wives leaving th
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14 years ago
ostracizedone
If errors arise among Christians, we should set them right; and good men will be careful to suppress errors which rise from mistaking their words and actions. We have a cunning adversary, who watches to do mischief, and will promote errors, even by the words of Scripture. Whatever uncertainty we are in, or whatever mistakes may arise about the time of Christ's coming, that coming itself is c
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14 years ago
ostracizedone
It is far better to be plain in speech, yet walking openly and consistently with the gospel, than to be admired by thousands, and be lifted up in pride, so as to disgrace the gospel by evil tempers and unholy lives. The apostle would not give room for any to accuse him of worldly designs in preaching the gospel, that others who opposed him at Corinth, might not in this respect gain advantage agai
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14 years ago
ostracizedone
"Woe to him who builds his house without righteousness And his upper rooms without justice, Who uses his neighbor's services without pay And does not give him his wages, "Moreover, among the prophets of Samaria I saw an offensive thing: They prophesied by Baal and led My people Israel astray. "Also among the prophets of Jerusalem I have seen a horrible thing: The committing
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14 years ago
ostracizedone
"I have heard what the prophets have said who prophesy falsely in My name, saying, 'I had a dream, I had a dream!' "How long? Is there anything in the hearts of the prophets who prophesy falsehood, even these prophets of the deception of their own heart, who intend to make My people forget My name by their dreams which they relate to one another, just as their fathers forgot
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14 years ago
ostracizedone
"I have heard what the prophets have said who prophesy falsely in My name, saying, 'I had a dream, I had a dream!' "How long? Is there anything in the hearts of the prophets who prophesy falsehood, even these prophets of the deception of their own heart, who intend to make My people forget My name by their dreams which they relate to one another, just as their fathers forgot
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14 years ago
ostracizedone
QuoteUndeniablyLividI don't mean this as a challenge, but honestly want to know what's your proof that Villamors were ASKED to step down. Seems like it would have made more sense for the elders to plainly just ask him to repent and start focusing on the true gospel instead of the prosperity, health & wealth gospel. They're still doing that anyway -so what's the difference?
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14 years ago
ostracizedone
QuoteBraveHeartMy prospective is from the involvement my family and I had with Tony Cunningham and the Radiant Life Cult. I Know the connection Mike V. and Turning Point has with Tony, goes way back to Coos Bay, Oregon..... I have been studying the church structure, church history and looking at what the bible teaches us about how the church is to operate. what I don't see and maybe so
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14 years ago
ostracizedone
Women are not to teach for it was a woman who was created from the rib of a man,for it was the woman who fell to deceit and sin in the garden and it is women who are charged to be submissive,silent and instructed by men.
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14 years ago
ostracizedone
Philippians 3:8- More than that,I count all things to be loss in view of the surpassing value of knowing Christ Jesus the Lord,for whom I have suffered the loss of all things, and count them but rubbish so that I may gain Christ. Ephesians 4:14- As a result,we are no longer to be children,tossed here and there by waves and carried by every wind of doctrine,by the trickery of men,by craftiness
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14 years ago
ostracizedone
it does seem like Christians are being taught how to build their own kingdom, how to gain the worlds fruits, and obtain happiness through performance and riches . what happend to things like humility, love, perserverence, seeking the character of Christ, learning to be content in all things, honoring our heavenly Father instead of man. I heard a pastor sunday ( a pastor who doesn't need to
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14 years ago
ostracizedone
Seems like it would have made more sense for the elders to plainly just ask him to repent and start focusing on the true gospel instead of the prosperity, health & wealth gospel. They're still doing that anyway -so what's the difference? According to Paul, "For we are not, like so many, peddlers of God's word; but as men of sincerity, as commissioned by God, in the sigh
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14 years ago
ostracizedone
Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as when they do it from religious conviction. If the divine call does not make us better, it will make us very much worse. Of all bad men, religious bad men are the worst.The smarter you are, the better your reasons for doing the wrong things..Hurt people hurt people. The greatest threat to the church today is not from without but from our ow
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