Megadeth"symphony of destruction"-see if you get the irony of the group name,song title and lyrics and how they relate!
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QuotetracicheriseHello I am Traci Salazar YOUR EX PASTOR'S DAUGHTER.... Apparently people can't escape your church's reach here even.And as far as someone needing to soften their heart...WOW
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SPIRITUAL PARENTING anyone? -describes JB's and JM's relationship to Mike. Both have sworn a greater allegiance to Mike than to their own parents. So the scribe became second only to God. Would it not be accurate to say that is the goal of the twisted teachings of that establishment ? I would dare say that it is not only a goal but a requirement of the elders and deacons who in turn
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A cult’s leader is crucial to understanding the group itself, as psychologist Margaret Singer describes it: In my study of cults, I find that the personality, preferences, and desires of the leader are central in the evolution of any of these groups. Cults are truly personality cults. Because cult structure is basically authoritarian, the personality of the leader is all-important. Cults c
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His "friends" are "impressed followers" of the his personality traits such as : Trait 1: Glibness/superficial charm Glibness is a hallmark of . They are able to use language effortlessly to beguile, confuse, and convince. They are captivating storytellers. They exude self-confidence and are able to spin a web that intrigues others and pulls them into the life. Tra
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Here is an Example of Another Religious Business Model This year on the TBN telethon, after Hinn stated that Jesus was going to physically appear at one of his crusades (which did not happen, surprised!), Hinn revealed his true colors and methodology. “You have held back from the Lord in the past, don’t you dare do it now. The day will come you will stand before Him and give an answer. How
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Why the conferences , cd's , seminars , men's meetings , women's meeting , marriage seminars , fake bible college , I'll make you rich speakers and all other scams etc. etc. etc. ? C'Mon , " For The Love Of Money Is The Root Of All Evil " . 2006 Charitable donations figure : "The biggest chunk of the donations, $96.82 billion or 32.8%, went to religiou
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QuoteUndeniablyLividThat's really good OstrasizedOne. I don't think they resemble Amway other than their new "bring 2" plan. They're not doing that to save souls but to bring in more tithers so they can afford to keep the sinking ship afloat. And what's with 2 services? I guess they're doing that "in faith" to produce more tithers. I wonder if Jeff Ba
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I'd say they resemble an vacuum cleaner company . Their product sucks , makes lots of noise , packaging and promotion are essential and their product is touted as the latest and greatest by people who don't care if it does what it is supposed to or not as long as it makes them money . Filth is gathered and stored in a compartmentalized unit with the initial waste rising higher and highe
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Christianity began as a personal relationship with the Lord Jesus Christ. When it went to Greece it became a philosophy. When Christianity went to Rome it became an organization. When it spread throughout Europe it became a culture. And when it comes to TPWOC it is a $$$ making business.
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Paul says "For I know this, that after my departing shall grievous wolves enter in among you, not sparing the flock. " in Acts 20:29
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QuotenooneofanyimportenceMeans as how this is a Turning Point Cult discussion and Mike Villamor is the Biggest Dog of the Prosperity/Greed gospel I have ever had the misfortune of listening to.................ah never-mind,I wholeheatedly apologize if I hurt your opinion of Mike and Turning point ! somehow ostracizedone I doubt your sincerity in the word wholeheartedly, I'm pretty sure y
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(quote)nooneofanyimportance "I dont think all pastors are like that some actually care for the sheep, and pour themselves out for others. of course you dont usually hear about them, because their true humility wont let them advertise, nor claim for themselves the glory only our Heavenly Father deserves. and they really trust in God and not their own abilities of persuasion. some really belie
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QuotebuddyI just happen to check out the Media guys twitter site at TPCWOC and the nice young man had a link to a local church that is having a conference event with guest speakers all week, where you can hear and view the sermons. Last year I noticed a large number of TPCWOC people attending this event. The flocks will run en' mass to listen to the "Dogs Of Scripture" and Their Ba
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Those that claim to be the spiritually called or gifted are the ones who are spreading the disease of sin and being paid well to do it . How ironic is that . Through their twisted teachings they are teaching that the flock can acheive salvation for a price when in actuality the flock is paying their damnation entry fee !
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For some reason the lyrics from an old 80's song keep running through my head ! For the love of money , you will lie to your mother , for the love of money , you will steal from your own brother , for the love of money...................................................................................................................
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Hello Braveheart ! Each and every item you put in bold will be a reason why the person with the itchy ear will have such a hard time leaving a satanic church ! They are getting the best of both worlds , live for money , be filled with greed, seek power , attain control , have a heart filled with lust , addiction to pornography etc. etc. etc. All the while you are hearing from the preachers it is
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False Apostles This is what Jesus has said to His disciples which were also His twelve apostles: You know that the princes of the Gentiles exercise dominion over them, and they that are great exercise authority upon them. But it shall not be so among you: but whosoever will be great among you, let him be your minister; And whosoever will be chief among you, let him be your servant: Even a
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What do all false prophets have in common? A hope of not being tested! They count on the people not to test their writings by putting guilt and fear in those that would dare to question Gods “anointed ones”. Most people think that if we just teach the truth then we don’t have to address error. However error dies a slow death and must be exposed and then killed by the truth. Infections don’t leave
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Here is a sight where Mike V. probably goes to get his sermons that were "Gifts From GoD" or prophesied by him as topics to preach on:
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What Mike Preaches: Quote: "Leadership is rare. Why? Because it requires dealing with diffi cult situations. Good leadership doesnt just lead when things go well. Good leadership takes us through hard and diffi cult situations." Mike Villamor What Mike Practices: Mike is going to "place tp in the hands of a trustworthy, gifted pastor who can love and lead her well. In ou
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Emily Masten Letter To This Forum.Anyone Other Than Me Wonder Why This Wasn't Given To The People Who Wrote The Articles? LOL I guess now is as good a time as any to post something here. I've been following this forum for over a year and have watched people share their opinions, stories, hurts, pains, trials, and victories when it comes to dealing with Turning Point. I've been
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Refresher on Stranger Article on Recruiting Gods Army-Note Emily Masten Quotes
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What is a Cult ? Info that describes the method of operation at TPWOC (Training People Ways Opposite Christs) - Characteristics Associated with Cultic Groups- Revised
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QuoteWounded WarriorSo if Mike is an Apostle then what positon does Cindy claim? Why can they NOT see the hurt and devastation they are responsible for in so many lives of former TP members? Where is the discernment and compassion? Has God given them over to their lusts for material wants and blinded their eyes and left their hearts hardened? Religious salesman get their money by
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Do you believe you are standing tall, Mike? Be careful, please. Mike Villamor Stand Tall ! Funny in more ways than one ! That would be harder for him to do than to come back to reality or God ! That boy is gonna show you , me and everyone else how he is gonna be bigger than god , more famous than god , richer than god and he can do it because he thinks he is more G
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