Be careful in dealing with your boss. She is driving with landmarkian goggles covering her eyes, nothing appears to her as it does to you, and the notion of being fair or courteous will not apply...don't expect to be treated professionally in the earthly sense of 'professional' ....and remember that snakes leave true landmarkians alone out of professional courtesy...Is your boss a
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you should get this put onto a cd and 'marketed' word of mouth(seems like an effective way of promoting a product :D ), what'll they do, sue you and make your song famous and go through the roof in sales :lol: It'll be like the attempt to remove the french video from public viewing...
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Good work Jack! What type of music and instruments for the song? Any bongo drums or violins? Rap or maybe a bit of a Bob Dylan sound? How 'bout getting the little man screech, "you don't know your ass from a hole in the ground', mixed in somewhere near the beginning or ending... :wink: Or maybe something resembling 'Chariots of Fire' to enhance a 'f
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questions about ?, can you be more specific daricusjn?
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:lol: how much for the bridge mongo? :lol:
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QuoteI've realized that this group uses quite a few specific words and phrases to back up their arguments and methods. I'm wondering if there is an existing list of this vocabulary that I might see and keep in mind as I work with her. It's probably a good idea to keep in mind that what sounds like 'backing up' an argument or a method, is just an empty but 'program
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I don't think lgats blow the circuits in the brain as much as they re-route the circuits. The re-routing of circuits begins with the new teachings (even when they're false) and in the verbally repetitive presentation of those teachings. Repetition ensures learning for most people. When the repetition alone will not suffice, there is always the old stand-by behavioral therapy methods. Re
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QuoteDoes anyone know anything about a group of New-Agey type people living in the San Diego area and also in Baja California, Mexico? I apologize for not having much information to go on and know that there are a lot of New Age people in that area who are basically harmless so I don't mean to disparage anyone. The only names I have to go on are Sienna Lea, who claims to have been a primal t
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QuoteIn terms of using people that happens because landmark wants things done and who ever said they would do it gets "coaching" about being unreasonable which in layman terms means do what ever you have to do without thinking about who you are screwing over to get it done. I came to this assumption quite a few months ago but always with a doubt that I was correct about it. It is disa
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QuoteI personally never initiate a 'Landmark' discussion, but wait for the 'Graduate' to make reference to it. It's never pretty. It never feels satisfying. I wish I had had the self control and common sense not to initiate either, when I was less aware of how this tightrope is best walked. :( How true that its never pretty!
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QuoteNow that I think about it, I'm not sure if my attacks on the cult drove the wedge between us. She was a different person after her reprogramming. That is what really ended the relationship. The lgat ended it, not my anger. I have realized that it was relatively easy to get my sister into the cult, and it is IMPOSSIBLE to get her out. She respected and valued my thoughts before she w
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QuoteWhen the sh*t hit the fan they were the ones who came to me and helped me recognise without treating me like I was stupid. It takes a lot to remain a friend with someone involved in landmark. But the friends who can stick it out through good and bad are the ones that I respect the most. sonnie_dee, I had such great intentions of being the kind of friend that your true friends were to you.
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you have to keep in mind that the research conducted by landmark would be done in Landmarkia only, (they just assume everyone knows this) by landmarkian researchers or at least ones influenced by landmarkia oxygen anyway, and none of its research findings can ever be be refuted here on earth because we are another planet/reality altogether. Also, research as we understand it here is typically con
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God help the Chinese is right! I guess the one good thing to be said about is that they are fair...No one gets excluded from their hit-list. This is sooooooo sick!!
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QuoteThey don't lose their critical thinking skills when it comes to their competitors. This is the reason I think that the victims have some sense of truth in their role as members of whichever cult they belong to. I mean, they know when what they're saying or doing is wrong at some level but choose to deny conscience. Critical thinking seems to be the first thing to go but how does it
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QuoteNo, who would think a slimey con-man would become a guru in the eyes of so many, but there it is -- we've got a bunch of them with no end in sight. There are people who will believe just about anything, if packaged and delivered in the right "program." Makes you wonder how we've survived this far. Great points, as ever! I guess a scuzball zero becomes a 'hero'
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QuoteSurely this would also be true of any psychotherapy or behavioural therapy technique being used innappropriately, and hence, tarnished? I would be interested to understand if you feel that hypnosis is seen in the same light. In this context, you appear to suggesting that NLP is universally a bad thing even in non-LGAT settings. Is this what you meant? Obviously, if anyone is misusing N
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QuoteLike one of the other posters said.. it's like dealing with a drug addict. Until she feels a sense of loss or hits bottom, the "drug" will keep working for them. If you're always around, you're sending a silent message that you support her. I gave much consideration to the 'tough love' approach earlier on but then I realized it doesn't apply to an LE
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QuoteI can only let you know what i found helpful. You can say you don't agree with landmark but leave it at that. if you try and convince her of why they are so wrong you will drive a big wedge between the two of you.. Its a very fine line and to be honest it all depends on how much you value the relationship, because landmark will push to win and if that means losing relationships so be it
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Your inquiry leads me to a question: If your experience with NLP was a great and positive experience, how or why did it lead you to a cult awareness/watchdog site? In my opinion; if it is something known to be used for manipulation of the mind, whether that manipulation be for 'good' reasons or for 'bad' reasons, it is still manipulation and should be regarded as suspect, pe
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to add to last comment; she's not a new recruit. In fact she gives the same warnings about nay sayers and critics to new recruits that were pounded into her head when she was new.
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QuoteI think the key thing is to keep open communication with the person involved within landmark. Listen to what they say and try to not criticise it. Try not to show your thoughts when they say they doing something with landmark. This is difficult because when I just sit back and keep my opinions to myself, the assumtion is made that I support the LE crap. I think I may have attacked LE t
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QuoteOne thing that could possibly work is to ask the person you try to communicate with is to ask the what POSSIBILTY they have created themselves to be. Then listen for anything that doesn't seem to fit into the picture and point that out. Ask them what Landmark has created themselves to be. Try to find chinks in the armour. When it comes to landmark they want to portay themselves as a
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QuoteThis is probably the best advice. She's lost it for awhile, like lost on a altering drug. You have to accept that for all your guidance she'll have to make it out by herself. Obviously an experience like this could 'taint' any future relationship with this person. But if you step back and be available (if that's possible now), then I'm sure a time will come when
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QuoteI wonder if it's anything like Creative Accounting? I think you've nailed it right on the head!! :lol: :lol:
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QuoteSo Landmark tries to ban the French documentary, but this film is OK?? yup, its all about establishing that "empty and meaningless" legacy...makes about as much sense, to me, as two bald guys fighting over a comb. :shock:
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QuoteI was deeply involved, but the thing that was nagging in the back of my mind was the enrollment part. Landmark would say you would only get the full benefits if you shared your miracle (...). That didn't swallow. I felt alienated from others if I had to try to enroll them. It was very unsettling and discomforting. I couldn't grasp the concept of getting more value through bringing
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QuoteSadly, I think that there is probably nothing else you can do, you've stuck it out a long time. You may not have to leave completely, but you may need to step back until she finds her own way out. I've been in denial of this fact for a few months now, but no more. QuoteWhether you throw in the towel with your friend or not, it is a loss and you need to grieve it that way and
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I don't think it'll be easy getting any info from them directly regarding their history, affiliations, or credentials either. I inquired, never got a response back. Maybe I insulted them by comparing their site to LE's.... :roll: its a duck....
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something worth disrupting with information leaflets at the doors... A sneak preview of “Transformation” will be shown at the National Cinema Board of Canada in Montreal on January 17th 2007 at 7:00 p.m. For tickets and information visit: The official theatrical release will begin with a premiere in New York in April followed by screenings in select major cities. A television b
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