The pressure I recieved made me "repent" for seeing a rated "R" movie and from that time on I didn't dare attend one. To me it was sin not because of personal deciscion but because it was not acceptable to the assembly. Yet during the 1994 MTT I learned from a leader that He T.G. allows himsel to go to rated "R" movies based on his own judgment. But he would
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Hi I would like to submit the following experience, During 1983 I moved into a brothers house. After I moved in I discovered that I was in for much more then I bargained. I also dicovered a practice of hypocracy that I believe is prevelent amongst the "Saints" It happened like this. I was sitting at the dinner table one evening when we (The brothers I lived with) Began discussing Jap
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Hey whats up with all the unknowns? Isn't this "Walking in darkness" Come out into the light!
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Hi Eric Thanks for the thoughts! But I am very happy in the Unitarian Church. I am working with homeless people and I feel I am around the most decent honest people I've ever met. But I would love to talk more. God Bless
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Ji Eric remember me David Mauldin MTT 94? I am courious to know whats been happening in your life? I always felt you wold leave someday. How is your wife? Any kids? What happened in the Valley assembly these past 8 years? I remember it was pretty small? Is it still? Any one I know still around?
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had spent many hours praying for other during prayer tower and all nihght of prayer. Yet when I returned home a week later , no mention of my request was ever made. Again a few years later I recieved a call from a relative. Your Aunt died, Could you please speak at her funeral? Again I had to leave right away and I asked very strongly that prayer would be made for me. Yet when I returned I
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Can anyone relate to this experience? Certain members of the assembly never seem merit the same amount of concern or care that others are. Example for many years I attended prayer meetings where a brothers requet would be taken as a serious topic of prayer that night. It may have to do with an outreach or ministry where he would be preaching. It may concern his families health or well being.
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That's great Joe, I'd like to tell you a simuliar story, While living at a brothers house I was told that if I ever left fellowship I wouldn't know what to do with myself. I really hated to hear that because I think it just confirmed to me what a looser I was. Yet after leaving I found out that I wasn't such a looser, I was even elected "Man of the Year" for the cit
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Mark thanks for your reply, Joe I wanted to coment on how you were pushed around concerning your car. I think others would agree that certain people, (Myself included) were easy prey when it came to being bully'd. For example I know people who would go against the council of the leadership and yet somehow still be able to maintain a certain anmount of self esteam, dignity, respect and st
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Hi Mark In response to your challenge, I have had numerous run -ins with "Saints" almost on a monthly basis. (I live in Fullerton)Some people view me with contempt, suspicion and refuse to talk with me. Others are unable to get past my questions as it always comes back to "My issues with the brothers" Recently I've run into sisters who strike me as almost adolecent/girl
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Hi Mark, Your work on "Assembly Holliness" is right on. I would like to add that these doctrines work in cadence with the abuse which perpetuates the dysfunction. When I first entered the assembly and started a "serious walk" with the Lord these doctrines filled me with the euphoria that I was "special" before God. Yet as the years went on ( 15 ) I realized that &
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Hi, I was in fullerton the other day when I remembered this event. I think its pretty funny.-Life in the assembly was full of "doublespeak" (Being told one thing when it really meant something else.) Living in the brothers house we were told that no sisters were ever aloud over. When we asked, "why?" the canned answer was always, "We need to be a good testimony to the n
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Hi Mark I would just like to relate my own experience in relation to your last post. While "in fellowship" I made the mistake of visiting another church. It was on a Sunday night after "all day for the Lord" (This means I attended meetings with the Geftakys group from 9 a.m. till 5 p.m.) I made the mistake of being very encouraged about the fellowship and told another brothe
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Cont. This was a totally inept way to deal with someone who just confessed this type of an issue. Yet the assembly has no real way to resolve these issues because they are the cause. I remeber a sister "Disappeared" at F.C. I asked Brain Sheraton what happened? Where did Cathey go? His response was "She has made choices in her life..." 7 years later I found out she swall
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Hi Friends! Brent thank you for doing all the work that I've wanted to for so many years. I am so glad you are doing a website. I would love to tell what I know about George's past (My years with the Plymouth Bretheren) , the psycho-social dynamics of the assembly and contribute in any way helpfull. Although I no longer believe in a "personal God" It is my dream to see tru
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Hi folks its me David Mauldin, is anyone interested in starting a website? I would like to but it seems like I can't find enough time. The purpose of the site is open to your suggestions, I think a place where people could chat and share stories would be greatly beneficial to people who have left and young people who are trapped inside the assembly. It is my opinion (and I could be wrong)
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Hello I am a former member of the George Geftakys assembly and I would like to start a web site where former members can contribute and dialog. Is anyone willing to help me do this? I need pictures, Testimonies etc.. Thanks!
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Whats going on with the George geftakys Assembly? I hear Jim Heyman has left/come back and losing his mind? :(
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Does anyone have updated news on the Geftakys Assemblies? I have recently talked with someone who informed me an investigation was being carried out by the I.R.S. Also that Hector Perez left. Who else? Any update is greatly appreciated. Thank You.:rolleyes:
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Sadley this did not result in the peace, satisfaction and self esteem that I wanted. Rather I became more and more anxious about my life. Why did it feel like I was being taken advantage of? Was it because I sensed in George's life a freedom to do as he willed? Why did I sense in Tim's life an indugence in materialism, spending money that he didn't work for. Securing the future
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I responded by not going to Tim Geftakys for his "advice/permission." However my privacy was not respected because my roommates aparently went to Tim and told on me. He confronted me about my decision to move out of state for 6 weeks and told me "no" "I will not give you my blessing." (One that I never asked for.) After this I noticed a cold rejection from other m
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As time went on I learned that I had less and less controle over the decisions in my life. During 1985 I decided to go to a college that was in a nearby city. To do this I would have to move. I told this to my roomate and he responded by saying, "Go talk about this with Tim Geftakys, he can give you some good advice" I agreed to go ask Tim for "advice" but I had this strange
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During 1980 I was attending Fullerton College, CA. It was here that I was contacted by a group of people who identified themselves as "Just Christians" They seemed to be the same type of people that I had known from Calvery Chapel and because they were so familiar with the Bible I trusted them. Soon I was invited to join an "Anchor Group" During this Bible Study I learned th
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