Invisible: I think I was no longer active in the church - when I heard that an amphitheater was being built on the land at Shiloh. I suspect this decision was made by a couple people (at most), and rubber stamped by Apco. I doubt anyone had the courage to question it...and ask about John's 'vision' of the convalescent home for those who spent decades laboring at Shiloh. Not
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RIP Gladys. You earned it dear. You were one of the bright lights at Shiloh.
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changedagain Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > This post by 'Invisible' from May of 2017. It > references John's vision for Shiloh: > > Re: The Living Word Fellowship, The Walk, John > Robert Stevens > Posted by: Invisible > Date: May 05, 2017 06:04PM > > filthy apron, > > You wrote a concern for the agi
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Yes it was Jeff. He regained most of the use of his wrist and hand. Whoever asked about the arrangement between the sawmill and Shiloh, it was supposed to be 5 dollars an hour to Shiloh for this slave labor. What did you guys get for that? 80 bucks a month and all the corn chowder you could stomach.
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This post by 'Invisible' from May of 2017. It references John's vision for Shiloh: Re: The Living Word Fellowship, The Walk, John Robert Stevens Posted by: Invisible Date: May 05, 2017 06:04PM filthy apron, You wrote a concern for the aging population of TLW. I have been thinking about what you wrote these last couple of days. I thought I would share with you how in the
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Hey, all you rabble-rouser who left the insanity. I see I did not word that quite right. I get stressed when telling this sh*t and type worse... I have to fix my words in my above post. I was sleep-deprived for months before I got sent to Shiloh. I was exhausted. How much wisdom is there to have a father-in-law push my husband and I to go to Shiloh when I needed to be home sleeping and my
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Reepicheep, Looking back, yes, I think it was illegal. Here is an example: my adult son is his own power of attorney as he is mentally competent tho' physically disabled. He got sick. I called the on-call medical provider and was told to take him by ambulance to the ER on Friday. On Friday my son refused to go. That was his right to refuse tho I did not agree. On Saturday his temp was h
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Thaks kBOY. NancyB, I can't even imagine how awful that period of behing held against your will at Shiloh must have been. Couldn't that be considered illegal, as in kidnapping? More props to you for coming out with your sense of self intact. I have long wondered how many people over the years felt "trapped" in places like Shiloh. With workers having no savings, no transp
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R E E P During my stint there (June '78--Sept '79) we never supplied any materials that I know of to Shiloh since it was basically built by then. Before that time I do not know. $$$ probably yes.
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Typer, Thank you for sharing your account of being injured at the sawmill. I have a hard time understanding the mentality that doesn't use basic safety precautions, especially after children (the Nisly boys) had suffered severe injuries. Thank goodness for Jody insisting that you be seen in Iowa City. Good grief! Does anyone know...was the sawmill transformed from a private bisiness to
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Typer, Thank you for sharing your account of being injured at the sawmill. I have a hard time understanding the mentality that doesn't use basic safety precautions, especially after children (the Nisly boys) had suffered severe injuries. Thank goodness for Jody insisting that you be seen in Iowa City. Good grief! I'm also glad that you survived the experience. Does anyone know...w
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N A N C Y b Thanks again for your valuable contributions. Your proximity to these situations was something few people had. The revelations regarding JRS' attitude towards the 'proper authorities' is more than disturbing. This mindset probably explains why he was shown the door with a number of different organizations, brandishing an attitude that 'the law does not appl
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Changedagain, OMG! these horrific stories are building. Glad you are OK. I don't know if I ever answered if I was ever detained or not. I felt like I was. in the late '70s, I worked my nurse jobs while my husband worked kingdom biz, basically cause no one else would hire him-, sorry to say. I worked 2 jobs. One main one was graveyard shift- 11 days on 1 day off work one then 2 d
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This post from August of 2014. My experience pales in comparison to what typer went through, but I'll share it anyway: Posted by: changedagain Date: August 05, 2014 12:42PM paleface wrote: > Here's an odd question: have any of you ever been > held or detained on Living Word property (or at a > communal home) against your will? Where you > wanted to leave, but wer
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Typer, I am so glad the nurse sent you in the ER in time. John Bender and Dan Nisley's families were very dear friends of my family - I miss them. It is nice to read about them. Those two families were very progressive compared to the old order Amish in the Kalona community. Not getting medical care is the way they knew. Old Order Amish do not have phones, nor cars nor the money to pay med
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T Y P E R Big W O W ! As one who is not even in the medical profession, as soon as you mentioned the swelling, I knew it was probably blood-poisoning. You were very lucky. Dan operated(s) out of a paradigm that dismisses many conventions of modern society, for which there are plenty of justifications. (The opioid epidemic immediately comes to mind.) I, like yourself, would not attribute
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In reference to KBoys sawmill experience and mine which follows: They put me in the sawmill during the winter of 1976 after helping put up sheet rock in the warm 1976 summer months. My experience with injury there is as follows and pales compared to what some others experienced. After I left the sawmill in the summer of 1977 to work in the LA printing, I heard the story of the person who had h
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C H A N G E D ". . . Shiloh property will be sold in the near future . . . I trust (the proceeds) will be committed to a worthy cause." It seems like gaining access to any of TLWs finances has been about as difficult as obtaining the POTUS' tax returns. Seeing as how there has been obvious 'black budget' operations all along (Xmas truck?, Rayen Resort, Shiloh amp
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Hg2Au wrote: Since finding this board, most, if not all, of the suspicions and rumors have been confirmed by multiple sources. That's been my experience and many others who participate in this forum. BTW, I imagine Shiloh property will be sold in the near future, and the proceeds will go to _______________. Well, wherever it goes, I trust it will be committed to a worthy cause. /s
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This post by 'typer' from October of last year: This Re: The Living Word Fellowship, The Walk, John Robert Stevens Posted by: typer Date: October 24, 2019 08:29AM After my wife's money ran out, she got a job at Singer Sewing company in Panorama City for I think $1.35 / hour (min. wage) and still worked full time at LWB in printing. I worked at the saw mill in Iowa and Shil
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A post by FilthyApron from November of 2-14: Re: The Living Word Fellowship, The Walk, John Robert Stevens Posted by: filthy apron () Date: November 01, 2014 03:51PM I'm a part of the much maligned 3rd generation (LOL) so most of those names I recognize but were not around when I was in Colorado. My parents came into the church in 1971 at Grace Chapel and also attended Church of His
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Post by 'Paleface' from March of 2014: Re: The Living Word Fellowship, The Walk, John Robert Stevens Posted by: paleface () Date: March 25, 2014 03:20AM John S. (the former Palmer Lake pastor) tells kids at the Shiloh summer camp “let me be a REAL father to you, since your blood father isn’t able to be that for you.” Some kids bite at this bait and it is very destructive to thei
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From October of 2006--a young adult describing his/her YASP experience at Shiloh: The Living Word Fellowship, The Walk, John Robert Stevens Posted by: recoveredfinally Date: October 07, 2006 10:46AM Shiloh really was a slave camp. I was forced to work all day long in the blazing heat cutting rose bushes one summer. I fainted from exhaustian. Most summers were spent like this: wake up a
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An excerpt from a post by 'Paleface' (September 2013): Re: The Living Word Fellowship, The Walk, John Robert Stevens Posted by: paleface Date: September 27, 2013 09:27PM What will the future bring to the Living Word? If I may speculate, here's my predictions..... I predict that with membership dropping, churches will continue to shut down. I suspect that DC will be
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This sentiment expressed by 'Road to Damascus' is shared by many here (I think): Re: The Living Word Fellowship, The Walk, John Robert Stevens Posted by: Road to Damascus Date: November 09, 2019 03:14PM Interesting how I feel that the buildings at Shiloh are being emptied, auction to be held on the 23rd and the building to be totally shut down forever. An end of an era. Amazing
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Reepicheep Wrote: Date: January 06, 2018 11:34AM the reply was to what acesandates quote below. Reepicheep gave an excellent reply. I think this quote and reply is worth repeating for all the newcomers to the forum whether or not they have jumped into the active discussions. I have one of many possible examples to disputes Acesandates "feelings" -----------------------------
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Re: The Living Word Fellowship, The Walk, John Robert Stevens Posted by: JesusJesusJesus () Date: January 24, 2020 08:55PM Look! A brand new "master plan" for the Shiloh property. *********************************** I wonder if they will make posters out of this master plan? Then we can all buy them and hang them on the wall.
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JesusJesusJesus Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Look! A brand new "master plan" for the Shiloh > property. > > > ? Thanks, JJJ. We'll see how it unfolds. As we know, plans vs. execution have often been divergent in TLWF history. Any idea who the developer is?
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Look! A brand new "master plan" for the Shiloh property. ?
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JesusJesusJesus Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > The minutes from the 1/20 Kalona City Council > meeting show that the sale and developmentof the > Shiloh property, pending annexation, will likely > move forward. > > And this is why it remains important to ENCOURAGE everyone with any type of claim to seek legal advice. Discouraging peo
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