And to the end of our $600 weekend 'adventure' in 'eductation' What MP calle "The Gift Part Two" This segment again, quite a bit of knowing repetition within MP training, where each man is exspected to feel "the power of the archetypal joyful boy" and "'wild man' in his body and integrates it into his being...until they vibrate wit
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I've been involved with the Mankind project since 1988. I see no organizational abuse of power here, unlike, say, the Catholic Church, which I was a member of for 16 years. It is a not for profit, no one makes any undue amount of money and many men volunteer their time, including world renowned therapists, phychologists, doctors, clergy, business executives, etc. A few men on a few occasi
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Quotewhat2dofeldspar, I spent some time reading on the yahoo web you gave. Pretty eye opening stuff. I do understand what you mean about that forum. A lot of bickering between a handful of people, with neither side giving an inch. I've got on too - and posted a couple of comments so should get some hairs on end - I think the best thing I can do there is promote some real debate! Quotewh
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feldspar, I spent some time reading on the yahoo web you gave. Pretty eye opening stuff. I do understand what you mean about that forum. A lot of bickering between a handful of people, with neither side giving an inch. I had never heard of the sex toy used in Ctalk. That seemed to gross me out. I was surprised that the men would hold it while speaking. I guess by that point so many barriers ha
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feldspar, I went to the yahoo group you posted of. Could only read the intro page w/o registering. I have registered and am awaiting acceptance. I am curious as to why you have not shared very much about MKP with your wife before now. Did you think she would not understand. I do not think my husband wanted to share, but by the time I started digging and found info, asked him about it, he start
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This is exploitation of a belief no different to another cult and its sad to see people hurt... no beleif should be exploiting people full stop.. What is so interesting is the lack of understanding by the leaders of these types of groups... planetary life is in circles and they will eventually suffer their own actions but how many other people suffer before they are exposed and suffer them sel
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what 2 do? Definitely started looking into cults because of MKP. I couldn't understand why after such a brief involvement I felt so much fear of the men in the group and had so many recurrent thoughts/anxiety about the group. I was amazed how little information was available on the internet about this group. I stumble onto LGAT terminology about 1 year ago and then things began to clea
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I understand this group does seem a little crazy. At first I was afraid to post on this board because of possible retaliation against my husband. I finally decided a bunch of kooks was not going to intimidate me. I am only speaking of myself. I can understand why you feel as you do. What made you start looking up cult information. Was it MKP, or something else. My husband never attended I g
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feldspar, how are you doing five years later. What made you want to join, and what made you leave MKP? Did you have any of the things I posted about happen to you? 5 years later still married, wonderful wife and kids, but not a day goes by I don't think about this group. I joined because my business partner kept on and on about getting me to go. Basically just wouldn't give it up
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Please don't thank me for posting this, I'm shocked to be the first to do this. We need to find similar documents for the Women Within movement so we can see the overall ideological perspective of the creators of this monster. feldspar, please share all you can about your experiences with this group - for example - how typical is what I am posting to your experience? If you are not u
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feldspar, how are you doing five years later. What made you want to join, and what made you leave MKP? Did you have any of the things I posted about happen to you? I was surprised by your post. You are the first person I have ever seen that actually was a member, then left. Most of what I have learned has been from posts here. However, they are from spouses, or people who have not physically b
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thank you so much for posting this I have felt like something was wrong with me for the last 5 years after leaving this group, like I was the only one that didn't "get it"
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RU?ing, I am fascinated with this material. Please keep it coming. I am so appreciative of this information. It gives me a handle on this group of nutcases. It makes me angry this bunch of crap cost $600.00. I hope the people at the top are enjoying the millions they must be raking in.
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There are pages of this drivel. MP has something called "Alone Time " This practice isolates initiates "to integrate their new affirmation." It is described "as an active meditation." MP initiates "practice" their "affirmation" and "memorize it as a mantra" repeating it "over and over." This may last "o
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Quotewhat2doEllen, are you speaking of cults in general, Yes. Cults in general. They are boringly and predictably similar under the surface. They poach each other's tactics and put their own brand on them, pretending THEY are in possession of some secret "technology" or other such nonsense. QuoteSome of the suggested activities were shaving each other, massaging eac
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Ellen, are you speaking of cults in general, or specifically MKP? A friend sent me some printed guidelines from some of the Igroup manuals. Some of the suggested activities were shaving each other, massaging each other, washing each others feet, undressing and putting your clothers in a pile - then choosing someone's clother to wear. This kind of intimate behavior, which is kept very secr
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Quotenutrino Sexual boundaries are among our deepest and most personal... this isn't about sex, it's about breaking down a sense of appropriate boundaries, and shifting the locus of control outside of oneself to an authority figure. Yes... And matters of personal identity are so deeply intertwined with sexual and gender characteristics they go back to the womb in some insta
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I guess I just do not understand. In MKP, after the initial $600 investment, , what I can see is not about a lot of money. $175.00 for the I-group. What is the control about in MKP?. I sometimes think their is an ulterior motive with these people, but I do not know what it is? The have a comparable women's group called "Women Within". These men were urged to have their wives
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QuoteI am sorry if I offended anyone with this statement. I realize it is very shocking. Neither shocking nor surprising. In the EST 6 day training we had Sex Night where were were bombarded with with 3 movie screens of hardcore pornography... each screen had a seperate hardcore film on it. Each reel was composed of maybe a dozen hardcore short films, spliced together to form a mind numbing &qu
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This is very eyeopening. Do you have more, or is that all you have been able to obtain. Something occurred to my husband in the last sweat hut they attended before the "Feast". I do not know if this is normal or not. It took him several weeks to reveal this to me. If this is not appropriate, the moderators can delete. The sweat hut was one of the things my husband really liked.
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And heres the friday night /saturday morning fun! MP also has "animal names" it uses for an "Empowering Intent." MP states that "this step by step process has been carefully designed to get several results: Each man gets a totem animal name. Teams get names. Team members begin working together, making decisions, having some fun and learning to trust each other b
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These people are playing with men's minds. Some men could have had extreme trauma that needs to be dealt with professionally, not by a group of naked would be indian warriors. Many of the men in the group my husband attended were being treated for sexual addictions. Serious emotional problems. I have heard of many men filing for divorce after a very short time in MKP. And this from a g
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QuoteRU?ing A vision is always ahead of its time and usually unpopular, because mankind resists and fears change. That fear can make it dangerous to be a visionary. The New Warrior lives on the cutting edge facing that fear, in order to manifest his vision into our universe. Who I am in relation to you is my decision. If my personal mission transcends the old dominating way of being, it will,
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QuoteRU?ingNew Warrior Context Reality starts with what we know. In our reality what we know is physical matter. In the reality of our physical world, physical matter exists. Physics is the study of physical matter. Recently, physicists have discovered scientifically what some ancient philosophical systems and religions have claimed for millennia. Namely that all matter is the same stuff!
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And some more - I am posting this to help other demystify this BS to people who are being conned. I have nothing against any of the spiritual nature of this. People are free to believe whatever they want. They do not need to pay £500 to be starved and deprived of sleep and dignity. All below is from their not so small manual of mind alteration. MP states that its "Empowering Intent
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Quotewhat2doHow in the world did you get this information. Respectfully, please don't ask. All I'll say is some people don't realise what they share online. So I don't know who they are, I just know everything they have on their computer - fairly legally - through some p2p software. that THEY were a member of, and THEY were sharing this folder - hunt for the right words for
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My H has also attended this week end. I am very worried about this mind control. Did you husband say who he had a spiritual connection with? Was it someone in MKP?
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How in the world did you get this information. I am curious as to how you even got involved with MKP.
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This follows from the Photographer section in the post above the one above. "Empowering Intent: Stripping away the outside world." And participants "sign yet another agreement and taking away his name and giving him a number." Everything is designated including "pend, name tags, flashlight" and a "candle." There is an "On site Release
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"A complete breakdown of one of their weekends" reflects that every minute is carefully planned and blocked out and that nothing is really vesry spontaneious, though the initiates probably perceive otherwise. Beginning on Thursday at 7:00 PM through the weekend event ending at Sunday 4:00 PM everything is carefully scripted right down to the "goodbye process."
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