Good to hear from you, seventies walker. Posted by: seventies walker Date: August 14, 2017 05:24PM First time I am posting. I have been reading and following some of the threads with interest off and on for years My name is David N. I left Frangipane's fellowship in Michigan in 1979.I had been there since 1973 when Gruenberg started the local church.I never spoke to Francis agai
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He that is slow to anger is better than the mighty; And he that ruleth his spirit, than he that taketh a city. No, this is not taken from a speech, or a tweet, by our much maligned 45th president. It's actually Proverbs 16:32 in the Bible. I know, you're as surprised as I am. ;)
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Reep wrote: > I no longer participate in any church, so I'm not > the best person to give advice to those seeking a > church home. But I will say that the most telltale > sign of a cult is the level of control exercised > by the leaders. Here is a link that might help: > An excellent resource Potentially unsafe groups or leaders "come off very nice at fir
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Man sings 'Looking for a city' Note: I could not resist commenting on this clip.
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Excerpt from Wikipedia, which is more accurate: "Stevens died in 1983. His widow, the former Marilyn Holbrook, married Gary Hargrave in 1984 and together they led the Fellowship until Marilyn's passing in 2015. Many of Stevens' writings, as well as recordings of his sermons, continue to be distributed by Living Word Publications." Replica900 wrote: From what I learned, it
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From December of 2019: Posted by: larry bobo Date: December 02, 2019 02:09PM Since it has only been slightly over a year since the implosion of TLWF really started, this suggestion may still be a little soon for many. I want to suggest rethinking the relationships many of us have had with those who left TLWF prior to a year ago. Whether it was 10, 20, or 30 years ago, at some point, we fa
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Hi Replica900, I've never heard of any churches affiliated with the Living Word Fellowship, based in the areas you mentioned.
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Blowout Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > What’s going on in Nashville? Is it one extended > family moving there or is this something of an > exodus to more conservative waters to reconvene? No idea, Blowout.
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Lilith on the necessity of walls/boundaries: Posted by: Lilith Date: January 18, 2020 07:05AM As we navigate our way through all of this I think it’s a good spot right here to remind people that while we can agree that everyone in or out of TLWF are victims not everyone is a survivor. Some survivors are still struggling to make it thru some survivors have made it thru and are now trying t
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Reep wrote: I kind of still "have my walls up" to learning how to relax. Damn--how many times did we hear that admonition while in TLWF/Walk. Basically, it meant remove all resistance to the authority structure, so power hungry leaders could control every aspect of your life ('divine order'), with the ones at the top reaping the most benefits from your sacrifice, of cours
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Reep wrote: Thanks for the tip, Changed. Personally, I kind of still "have my walls up" to learning how to relax. A terrible side effect of having been in a cult for forty years. ; ) I bet it's not easy to relax when you've been labeled a Nephilim. So much wicked work to do, so little time. :)
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Reep wrote: Anyway, thank you for all your hard work and concern for this place to learn and heal. Much appreciated, Reep. BTW, one thing that has helped me the past 3-4 years is having a consistent meditation practice. The app I use the most is Waking Up, created by Sam Harris. Below is a link...which includes a free month to sample its offerings:
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Good to hear from you, FCSLC :)
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Thanks, Reep. I appreciate it. :)
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Discussion group stats: Comments: 12,071 Page views: 3,001,272 Thank you to all who have contributed to this discussion through the years-- including, but not limited to: UnapologeticallyJohn832, Reepicheep, puddington, kBOY, that little red flag, sierradawn, reveal, larrybobo, GSchaeff, Onion, Filthy Apron, PowerTrip, Saw enough, 4generation, TheSarge, Lilith, Jez th
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A post by the moderator from November of 2015: Posted by: rrmoderator Date: November 06, 2015 11:09PM Southern-Boy : You seem to be here essentially as an apologist and largely to cast doubt upon anyone posting critical comments here about The Walk and John Robert Stevens. You say you "only met JRS a few times' so you have limited experience. And as you admit Marilyn is &
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From January of 2019: Posted by: changedagain Date: January 15, 2019 03:56PM Marci wrote: Mary - First a huge thank you. I know you are tirelessly working toward every possible thing that can be followed up on. Your persistence is greatly appreciated but please take care of yourself. If there is anything we can do, don't hesitate to ask. Yes Note: I've been engaged in a p
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From Oct. 2018: Posted by: reveal Date: October 14, 2018 FROMSOUTHCHICAGO, I'm glad you asked about Marilyn's funeral because it's something I have thought of posting about on here for some time. I was there and it was very, very odd. One, we had to pay to attend. No kidding. We were told we had to register if we wanted to attend the funeral, and pay $40 per person to "
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From May 2019: Posted by: larry bobo Date: May 16, 2019 02:55AM At the time of John’s death, the upward flow had already started. As Gary and Marilyn took control of the organization, the level of control and focus on them increased dramatically. There were a few members of the third generation that had referred to John as “Christ in the Flesh”, but to most, he was the “Door Opener Apostle
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Jesus huddled in a corner? Posted by: lone.wolf Date: November 19, 2018 08:22AM (excerpt) When I “blew out”, it wasn’t because of disbelief in Gary & Marilyn, JRS, or the Living Word. I actually still believed that I was brought into something wonderful, that they truly loved me and my family, and I was lost for a long time after leaving. My first true moment of disbelief was listeni
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Reep, Then later under Gary Hargrave it became almost a put down to say that someone was seeking a revelation from "God in the sky" as opposed to being obedient to "Christ in the flesh". At least I missed out on those worship services where people were encouraged/compelled to substitute Marilyn's name for God. BTW, Marilyn's cousin made it plain that he didn&
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From December of 2020: Posted by: changedagain Date: December 22, 2020 01:13AM I don't think there was any Walk teaching as pernicious as "Christ in the Flesh." Although theoretically it was referring to the many-membered "Body of Christ," in practice it applied to John Stevens, and later to G & M. Any problem you might have had with these leaders, once commu
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Reep wrote: I hope that my daughter doesn't have to read those letters I wrote to shepherds after I'm gone and be embarrassed. I want her to read what I have written here and be inspired that her mom stood up. Yes
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Sierradawn's post from October of 2013: Posted by: sierradawn Date: October 09, 2013 03:00PM Hello all, Unfortunately due to the permanent loss of previous posts by many including all of mine and at the request of a fellow poster, I am reposting my story to continue to help others who are on the fence about whether to leave this cult known as The Living Word. If you're NOT on
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A few posts from August of 2013: Posted by: Invisible Date: August 16, 2013 01:35AM Some years after I left the church, I spoke on the phone, with one of the apostolic ministries some time in the 1990's. He cried when he told me that the ministry had separated his wife from him.- I wish I would have been able to talk with him about so many of the answers that I would find later - as
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Onion wrote: Next to the coins in both safes were many silver bars, stacks of gold Krugerrands, and some diamond jewelry -- the diamonds from one big ring was later used in diamond rings for G&M and Marilyn's kids. Some gold and silver were secretly cashed in when JRS died so that it could be put as cash in offerings. G&M were very concerned because the financial side in JRS's
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Reep wrote: Dear Wasted and KSargent, If you're reading this, I hope that you both come back and tell us more of your stories. <3 Yes
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How would you describe your pastor's sermons? Like a freight train So they're anointed? No. A good service in when he doesn't derail. That doesn't happen often, unfortunately. reveal wrote: 'On another current topic of conversation, I am sickened hearing about this plan to implement a team of overseeing ministries that will allegedly have "one equal vo
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A post by 'reveal' from September of 2018: Posted by: reveal Date: September 06, 2018 06:37AM I love what everyone has been posting lately. I feel like so many of us have been holding our tongues for a very long time and we have somehow collectively realized that the time has come to SPEAK UP! Someone mentioned recently the concept of "doing your own thing" and do I ev
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Oct 31-Nov 1 of 2020: Posted by: Wasted Date: October 31, 2020 06:28AM I have spent a lot of time reading many people’s stories and experiences within the cult that was/is The Living Word Fellowship. It is horrible, disgusting, and I am so sorry for all of those it has impacted. Thank you to so many who have shared. I sincerely hope as you move forward from these experiences you are able
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