SouthGate Wrote: > Plus, I always thought that the ultimate higher confirmation was God. I know > things changes before and especially after John died. It's now Marilyn.
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SouthGate Wrote: > I love reading your posts. Pretty much make me > laugh every time. Just curious, who was the pastor > when you left if you don't mind telling me. Thanks. McMullen--he was sincere in serving G & M, so even though we butted heads, I can't fault him. He was doing (I think) what was expected of him. Very dedicated. In retrospect, it's obvio
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puddington Wrote: > This principle is total BS. It never works and > only pays lip-service in an attempt to appear that > the structure of submission in the church is fair. > What really happens is that when a sheep asks for > a "higher confirmation", the local shepherd types > up a shepherding memo explaining what the sheep is > complaining about with t
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Tmason Wrote: > I attended TLW schools until 1984 and > I can tell you that very few if any of my > classmates are part of this now. The great effort > to brainwash the kids apparently failed That's refreshing. I think kids spot hypocrisy easier than adults. Welcome to the board!
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Over 269,400 page views to date... (not that I care about stats)
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Speaking of the cloud of witnesses, I wonder if John & Marilyn are getting along? I haven't heard anything about them speaking in unison. Are they at odds about which direction TLWF should head? Is it something more personal? BTW, I grew up in a family where Mom and Dad pulled in opposite directions, argued about seemingly everything, and it was no picnic. The kids always suffer. F
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"Excuse me, sir. Do you want His miracle power to cleanse and transform you? I didn't think so. O.K.--well, have a nice day." (that was pretty much the extent of my evangelical prowess back in the day).
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kBoy shared: EX-TLW ALUMNI: Francis Frangipane I never met Francis. Based on what is written in Wikipedia, and your impression of him, it's a shame he didn't have more influence over what became of TLWF. I'm sure that could be said of quite a few in leadership roles that were either forced out or simply left disillusioned. Thanks for sharing. BTW, I'm of the opi
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A very happy New Years to all the ex-prophets, ex-men and women of God, Nephilim, Jezebels, Male spirits, bitter blowouts, cross-dodgers, pure atmosphere violators etc. that inhabit this board. I appreciate every one of you. Hope you enjoy this coming year. You deserve it!
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larry bobo Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > If David Koresh was still leading his group from > the cloud of witnesses, you’d think they were > nuts. Marilyn supposedly does it, and nobody > within the group even bats an eye – just as they > are programmed to respond. So true--it is quite a spell, and once you're free of it, you are
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lily rose Wrote: > SouthGate and changed spoke of Dan Statton. Last > year I recall having a conversation with Apostle > Dog about Dan and later someone sent me the > following: Dan died in early May 2004 at the age > of 79. He was buried at Shiloh. Well, that was nice that he was allowed to be buried there. Thanks for sharing. p.s. no idea about Larry C.
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SouthGate: "I think that was before your time in SG, maybe 1985 when Dan did it, but he was the one leading the song at the time." I was close to Dan--we liked each other. I understood his zeal, at times misguided, but didn't fault him for it, since I was aware of the pressure on him to please those over him. I know he meant well--in spite of his ego. I was very saddened by t
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SouthGate Wrote: > The more I think about it, you had to have been > there when I came back. Before I left again. LOL! > I remember Dan when he was 1st put over SG, and he > had people singing "Everybody loves Gary and > Marilyn". Probably wasn't much longer after that, > that I left for a while. I'm pretty sure I never led a worship service whe
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kBOY Wrote: "But before we can be this people, we have to deal with the unbelief in our minds over the Word of God (that has basically beaten us to a pulp for over half a century). Isaiah 11:3 says, “And He will delight in the fear of the Lord, and He will not judge by what His eyes see, nor make a decision by what His ears hear.” (The perfect recipe for TLW leadership mind control.)&quo
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SouthGate Wrote: > On the flip side, I was a none caring azzhole > when they sold the Anaheim church. Looking back > now, I should have cared. I know when they sold > South Gate people thought that they would buy > another facility in Orange County, which I wasn't > a fan of at the time, but again looking back... > The reason people thought that would happen is
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lily rose Wrote: > I hope the truth comes > out and that folks feel that this forum is a safe > place to share what they experienced. I know the > conditioning runs deep about not touching God's > anointed but I think at some point (and it can > take a long time) one discards that fear and > begins to examine it all. There's very few things I'm cer
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40yearsin2016 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > "This collection of John Robert Stevens’ > ministry of the living Word from July 1981 – > December 1982 became an unfolding, crescendo of > impartation — a creative tidal wave in the > Kingdom of God on earth" > > Been away for a while, reading this is a bit of a > flash of P
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SouthGate Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Thanks everyone for the warm welcome. > > "I remember changing God’s name to Marilyn’s > name in worship songs" > > That's usually When I would just walk out, or > wouldn't sing or worship. That was wise.
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I will be the first one of admit my feelings were hurt by leadership...especially when Marilyn told my wife to kill me. I was really sensitive to that particular directive. Fortunately, my wife got distracted and never carried it out. I think she was into baking at the time.
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South Gate: "I know lots of people were way more dedicated to the cause than I ever was, so I'm sure that's why some people are hurt more than others. Another reason might be because a person condoned things going on until one day either they were crossed or they couldn't pretend anymore." Good to hear from you, South Gate. Feel free to chime in anytime.
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> "Why can't you accept our love? Insecurity is the > expression of Satan!!" Actually, I think the exact statement was "Insecurity is Satan in the Kingdom." If this is incorrect, feel free to correct me. I'll promise not to lash back in insecurity to this correction...going against instinct :)
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> "These select messages on CD and vintage print are > the catalyst of oneness in relationships, > impartation, miracles, healing, and transformation > (and a boat-load of oppression in the > decades that followed by the G&M > regime). The perverted, harsh application of these messages created the exact opposite of what Gary claims. I can't imagine too man
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Cloudwatcher Wrote: > This is just disgusting--recycling old > messages--remastered--how sick it is. More > $$$$$$$$ keep those cards and letters coming in > you fools. this is just sad. Yes, sad and disgusting.
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kBOY Wrote: > "Collection #1 is only $200 for more than 125 > messages. I'm going to wait until the price drops to $5.99 and then buy it for my wife. I know it's a risk. I wouldn't be surprised if she filed for divorce within a week of receiving this gift.
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TheSarge Wrote: > I don't post much anymore. I don't care what Gary > is doing. I don't care that Marilyn died. I > don't care what ApCo does. And the people left > behind are on their own. They have no qualms in > kicking us out or labeling us as nephilim or > Jezebel. They are sychophants who bow down to > status and money but marginalize t
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Lettruthcome wrote: “yeah the whole message changed in the church after Gary imparted oneness, went from Love to submitting to authority so we can all be one.” --------------- He is obsessed with people being submissive. That is a running theme in his messages, as far back as I can remember. Glad you're questioning his emphasis.
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260,375 page view to date... Apparently, there are quite a few people out there that seem to enjoy reading about our gaping wounds. That said, I will not be satisfied until we overtake that other cult that seems to be drawing more interest. We will prevail!
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lily rose Wrote: > Your post cracked me up because I have > misinterpreted changed too. I know I can't speak > for him but I think he was using sarcasm to > express his disdain for the LW. Yeah, I don't put much thought into whether Satan is here or there,..or whatever. That post was my best effort to express disdain toward the topic, in my usual ineffective sarcast
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I made the mistake of trying to connect to what I thought was 'Mom' in the cloud of witnesses, and all I heard back was: "No wire hangers, ever!" Someone up there knows my bad habits.
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