Howmidoing: My heart breaks for you. I would hope your parents would be loving and protective of you no matter where you stood on the status of the TLWF churches and maybe they do. I am glad you felt comfort from them and I hope it continues. For Gary to correct the problems with the church he would need to go back to 1983 and reverse every action that was taken to line someone's pocke
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To Tell The Truth: I was not intimidated and I was not afraid by your public post asking about disbarment. If anything, what led me to believe you are not for real on this forum is (1) You stated in your public post that you take these things (lawyer disbarment) very seriously and (2) In an earlier PM to me you said you were active in the church from early 70's to mid 1980's but didn&
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Hi Aleutian - I am consistently intrigued by your name. The only thing I would want to modify in your description of TLW LITE (great name) is that the sexual improprieties have decreased. I haven't heard anything that would indicate any changes have been made in this area in any way. I'm sorry to say I hear of more events that occurred a long time ago and more people that were
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Changedagain - Yes it's real. Obtained with a lot of blood, sleepless nights, sweat and utter panic. Nothing honorary and I don't wear any fancy robes or collars or hats. ;-)
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We are certainly a very active group - and that is really good news. Information that I was disbarred is public record. It is important to me that everyone understands that I am no longer an attorney and I have said that several times in my posts here. The public record details are not the whole story. And I do not want to post the whole story publicly because I want to be able to use that i
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kBOY - Very well said. There is a quote that says if something can be destroyed by the truth, it should be. I agree. I look forward to sharing my full truth to those who can be trusted on this forum and who I consider friends and allies. If my personal history or decisions truthfully told can destroy me in peoples' minds, so be it. Other than that I will stand by my course of action o
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To Tell The Truth: I have explained the actions related to the disbarment to many friends and would be happy to explain it to you. Please send me a PM and let me know who you are and I will respond as to a friend in a PM. If you have been in the walk for a long time, and in the legal field for 35 years I have to assume we know each other. Let me know.
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I had some sexual assault experiences pre-walk. I remember vividly the details of each attack and situationally where I was but if I had to put dates and times to the events, that would be difficult. These traumatic events occurred during the wild 60's and I was an adult before I could look objectively at what happened and recognize that I was not complicit in my own attack -- if that makes
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There are many victims of, and many witnesses to, RH sexual assaults and they are beginning to come forward to be heard. A few of us have set up a support group for sexual misconduct victims and witnesses. If anyone reading here would like to be part of a very confidential, identity protected group, please send me a PM. I would like to hear more information on your friends who experience
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Anyone who sincerely breaks free and wants to get help and give help from/for others who also have a sincere desire to be free and be made whole, should be welcome to read these posts and post here. Any of us that were part of the group for an extended period had to have been involved in pushing the word, "training in Marilyn's thinking," etc. etc. etc. I think we all feel deep so
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The U.S. does, yes, have an extradition treaty with Brazil. In practical reality, the effectiveness of such a treaty depends on many factors including the relationship between the nations, the aggressiveness of the prosecutor and maybe even the patience of the people involved. Other laws that might be interesting relate to statutes of limitations, avoiding service of process and collecting ci
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For an example of how effective this forum can be in providing healing resources for people AND in helping to right wrongs, I submit the following: Here is an example of an instance when former members of a religious group posted on the RR Forum regarding sexual abuse of minors (and adults) by a leader. A reporter was reading the forum and did an article about him. The police picked it up and
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Hi "that little red flag." Thank you for posting and for your words of comfort. I'm sure many of us know each other and I agree, I feel a kinship and I am amazed and proud of every single person in this group whether he or she has ever posted.
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RRModerator - Thank you. I appreciate what you do by creating a safe place for us to communicate. I also appreciate you sharing information, links to education and your recent posts. I think you are accomplishing your goals and I am glad I am one of the beneficiaries.
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kBOY & RRModerator - Thank you for this exchange. I appreciate having the references. kBOY - you and I probably know each other because I also had over 30 years in the walk cult. My name is onion because I am aware of how many layers we have to peel to get the conditioning and training of the walk cult removed from our day-to-day habits no matter how those habits are translating into l
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Changedagain - Thanks for always making me laugh. Another really good thing about being out of TLWF is ANIMALS. Loving all animals is a good thing and even having pets is a very joyful thing. TLWF was supportive of having secrets and affairs but not of having pets. Go figure.
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kBOY - Love your blasphemy.
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Tknc - So much about what you said about storms breaks my heart. First of all, thanks to Kboy for being so eloquent and correct in what he conveyed. Not only did you NOT have anything to do with making Katrina, the folks in the walk churches were goofy when they (we) believed JRS, Marilyn, controlled the weather. I also think they (we) were goofy in believing in God's judgment in
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Have many of you read the research works re: the walk by Woodrow Nichols? I don't know how I missed it in the 80's but it's likely if I heard about it I wouldn't have wasted my time reading something I wouldn't have believed. Now I am reading his work and finding a lot of answers. Here is a link to a short document by Nichols: Here is a link to his 167 page
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Is there any practice or policy any more directly evidence of mind-control than submission? You have to behave as ordered. Eventually you believe the order was right. So your behavior is drastically altered and your mind eventually follows.
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Changedagain - Definitely give it to Kevin. Ha/Ha you are a hoot.
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When people seem to take issue with what we label we place on what was done to people and taught to everyone at TLWF, there isn't any further one has to look than the quote you gave Cultfree. One of the most basic tenets of TLWF is submission. How can anyone quibble over what submission means? It is defined as subjecting your will to the will of the one to whom you are submissive. In T
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Life OTOS - As I read your post I was caught up in a visualization of years of being in TLWF and what it looked like and what it looks like not to have to constantly be under a microscope. Freedom is brilliant. I hope you will keep posting as I love your writing style and what you have to say. When I first joined this forum I didn't know who was still in the walk and who wasn't a
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Aleutian - So glad you posted. The advice from Aleutian is excellent no matter how old we are. I would add to the list of volunteer opportunities to consider helping animals. It's wonderful to see instant results in helping change a life after all the years of living on promises with no follow through.
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I am curious as to why there is such a debate over the proper use of words such as "brainwashing" and "mind control." If something is taken to a court of law, the use of psychological methods for crowd control, influencing people, controlling people, etc., would have to be proved. There's no big win here to deciding what term we are going to use for methods that were us
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I spoke with a former leader of TLWF who knows the details of disciplinary action and one aspect of administrative leave is that Rick and Lorena will continue to be paid. So basically, this is a paid vacation. An article I found interesting concerning the handling of a big shot at the Met. No issue of statute of limitations in an effort to avoid a lawsuit. No leave with pay. Just straight
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Thank you "Lifeotos" - Accountability doesn't equate with bitterness. People really had us bound up. I am so glad we are all finding one another and as we speak out we know we are being heard. Yay.
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Larry - I love your heart and your message but I have to admit that when anything sounds like preaching, I turn off and you sound a bit like a preacher. I don't believe that standing up for what is right and taking appropriate action with the tools available to us (that I believe have been provided by our higher power - no matter what name He/She goes by) is bitterness. A lot of peop
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I would really like to talk to anyone who was a part of YASP in the first "experimental" year in 1989 and in the formally organized years of 1990 forward. Please contact me by PM or post your experience on this forum. I will keep identities secret if I am contacted by PM. Thanks for your help!
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Someone suggested a goog book title re the walk" A Walk With Fraud.
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