kBOY Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > THE JEWEL: > > > I'm afraid I am not going to be of much more help > with the Mel Bailey situation. I was a young buck > at the time, living on the 'farm' across from CLW, > which of course is now the Rayen Resort--or > whatever the hell they call it. (I never had the > pl
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kBOY Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- (Remember > all the scuttlebutt surrounding Mel Bailey in > Anaheim?) We were also stuck in the east when all > the 'divorce-wars' were taking place. We were > also not in a position to get our ears close > enough to go beyond whispered gossip. > Could you add some more color to what happene
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> My understanding is the walk churches do the > Jewish festivals and feasts because those are the > ones Jesus did when he was here. JRS frowned on > Christmas and Easter and had published a booklet > about the various holiday icons that he equated > with the golden calf. It's odd isn't it that > everyone in the church helps Rick put on a > Christmas Ca
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reveal Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > FROMSOUTHCHICAGO, I'm glad you asked about > Marilyn's funeral because it's something I have > thought of posting about on here for some time. I > was there and it was very, very odd. One, we had > to pay to attend. No kidding. We were told we had > to register if we wanted to attend th
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GSchaeff Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Wow. It's incredibly telling of Shiloh's ulterior > motives that they want homeschooling space at > their facility only to turn around and treat those > kids as hired help. It's likely that they justify > the homeschooling space by saying the surrounding > school districts are a bad
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changedagain Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > "The point of modern propaganda isn't only to > misinform or push an agenda. It is to exhaust your > critical thinking, to annihilate truth." > -Garry Kasparov > +1 Kasparov has appeared a couple times on Preet Bharra’s (probably got his name wrong) podcast. Mostly politics but m
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Tmason Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > My best memory of RD was his extremely poor > driving. He would habitually press the gas and > then let off, press and let off, again and again > until you felt like throwing up. In the very early days (pre-barn) he held services in a converted garage behind his home in Chula Vista, CA. Not too far from th
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puddington Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Ah yes, I have platform memories of Earth shoes > and Binaca. Ahhh...., Binaca, I wonder if they still sell that stuff. It was sort of like TLW “holy water”.
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NancyB Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > TheJewel > > BINGO! > I think they thought we would never know. No > revelation of the coming internet with vast > information. There was a lot of “snake oil” being sold. I was not ever close to JRS but I was somewhat close to RD Cronquist. He was a follower of some of the Latter Rain types as
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puddington Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Here’s a question: Besides the First Principles, > we were also told in the LW that JRS was the one > who started the act of “singing in the spirit”. > I suspect that is not really true and that other > early pentecostal groups were doing this long > before 1951. I had heard somewhere, perhap
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changedagain Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Meanwhile...our Narcissist in Chief will be > speaking tonight--presumably to unify our country. > I sure hope he speaks out against that Nephilim > Robert Mueller. He's the real threat to our > Democracy! > (sarcasm alert) It was exactly this that prompted my earlier remarks. There are
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Reepicheep Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > changedagain Wrote: > ------------------------------------------------------- > > BTW, aside from weathering criticism from those > > who lost their life savings in the mine > > debacle...did John take a significant financial > > hit? I recall an allegation in the divorce > trial
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NickleandDimed Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Was John's psychic gift to read people from God? > Maybe it's not a gift at all . Scientific > investigation has found some are born with psychic > abilities. And some have gotten it through > transference. There has been some mention. That > Braham may have laid hands on John and tr
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NickleandDimed Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I'm always curious to know. For those who weren't > kicked out. At what point do those who leave get > disillusioned? Is it after maxing out your credit > cards? Or after studying the School of Prophets > manuals for 40 years. Never gaining the power of > telekinesis. Or never seeing
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puddington Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Does anyone know the details about the end of > Coniah Chapel? When RD changed the locks on the > doors and kicked everyone out? The remnant of > the congregation met somewhere else and eventually > suied RD to get the property back. Is that how > CoHK was born? RDC thought that the facil
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lily rose Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > puddington Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > RD was quite the showman wasn't he? > Especially > > in his wildcat pentecostal days. > > > He also was quite the doomsday false prophet. > > R D Cronquist of Grace Chapel, Califor
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Wow, Orange Avenue Fellowship. RD held services in a converted “garage” out back. I remember he used to get fired up and hop across the platform on one foot, right arm outstretched shaking his finger (at the Devil, I guess). Occasionally a cuff link or his watch would come flying off. I remember thinking of Ian Anderson (of Jethro Tull) when I would see Kim do that. Strange how those memorie
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NickleandDimed Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Today many brainwashed wanna be false prophets > from the little remnant will gather. At the school > of prophets. Words will be spoken to pump each > other up. You are the elect. You are so special. > Words that have no authority will be spoken. That > are meant to shake our nation. Watch out
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NickleandDimed Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > ....And offering your personal opinions about > spirituality or religion was against the rules. It is our personal opinions about spirituality and religion that caused us to make the desisions we made, both to enter into TLW and for most of us here, to ultimately leave it. So, it is only natural that the
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slandjt Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > How convenient, Larry. You repented and God gave > you a fresh start? Give me a break. I notice > your example was of the woman caught in adultery > that was brought to Jesus. I wonder what happened > to the man she was caught in adultery with. > Apparently in your Jesus world, men aren't h
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puddington Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Maybe we could organize a rally with signs and > stand outside the CLW church in North Hills. We > could demand transparency on where the assets > went. > > Then again, maybe not. : ) Get Gary to hold a town meeting.
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changedagain Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > FCSLC Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > Maybe G-man could give a message about > forgetting > > Submission, he could go on a roll. > > Yes > I've read from a few posters on this forum, > familiar with his early days, stating he ro
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> However, if you make any kind of positive remark > regarding Celebrity Apprentice and/or Arnold > schwarzenegger, then yes, you will need to stop > postinng. LOL. :-)
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40yearsin2016 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I remember message just around the rise of the > Timothy's that confused everyone - something a > long the lines of "you can't separate the man from > the message". The popular interpretation I > remember was that if you loved the word you had to > love JRS also: warts and
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Badlad1955 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > During my time in the walk, 72-76 I did know JRS. > During those years much was hidden behind closed > doors. I spent a year with the School of prophets > teaching. spending a year with Coniah chapel in > SD. I would not trade that year that I had with RD > Conquest. He was a man of God. And yet w
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LampShmamp Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Stevens' death was caused by cancer, not "the sin > nature." Cancer is in no way some divine > punishment, nor an indication of innate evil. It > is superstitious nonsense to suggest otherwise. > This is 2017, not the middle ages, and anyone can > and should break open a biology boo
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"I never knew R.D. Cronquist except to see him sometimes at South Gate. He would put his chair right next to the pulpit on the platform and sit right in front of all the others on the platform. That always seemed strange to me." Yea RD definitely had a strange streak. I always thought he wanted to be on par with JRS in some way, which is what I suspect you were picking up on. He ha
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changedagain Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > TheJewel Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > Try this one: > > > > > > 6/8/24680235/jrs_the_walk.doc > > > > It just worked for me. > > > Thanks, Jewel. > Here is an excerpt (pg 34-35) regarding the mine &
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Try this one: It just worked for me.
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lily rose Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Tmason...JRS's son in law Richard Helphand was an > attorney and he was involved in the mine > investment along with JRS, but I don't think > either of them were prosecuted. I don't recall > every hearing JRS publically apologize for > misleading the congregation to invest in the min
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