Reepicheep Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > TheJewel Wrote: > ------------------------------------------------------ > RD was a real weirdo. > > > Jewel, wasn't being deviant a requirement for > apostleship? Apparently so but I didn’t know that at the time I was part of TLW. I am amazed at some of the stuff I have learned here
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puddington Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Back in the 70’s, in the San Diego LW church > (Coniah Chapel), RD Cronquist brought a sermon > titled “Would You French Kiss Jesus?” That probably would have depended on how many beers, I had consumed:-) Seriously, Cronquist was preoccupied with the sexual stuff. I don’t remember that sermon but it sur
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kBOY Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Interesting trends that will only continue with > Covid-19: > > "Only 6 percent of Americans possess a biblical > worldview, according to a new survey." > > > > * * * > > "Pastors worry most about reaching next > generation in local churches." > >
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kBOY Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Interesting trends that will only continue with > Covid-19: > > "Only 6 percent of Americans possess a biblical > worldview, according to a new survey." > > > > * * * > > "Pastors worry most about reaching next > generation in local churches." > >
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changedagain Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > A post from August 2018: > > Re: The Living Word Fellowship, The Walk, John > Robert Stevens > Posted by: girls_turn_it_off > Date: August 16, 2018 01:09PM > > "Girls Turn It Off" was probably the most > influential piece of Living Word material for my > generation of
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Chachakitty Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Had to share... so my nephew was at Shiloh helping > with getting more stuff out of the building prior > to it being torn down. > He said he was lifting 100# boxes of coins. Boxes > of pennies ... and other coins .. but boxes and > boxes of coins which were being taken to the bank > to cash
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Chachakitty Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Huh I hadn’t read anything Re: Dan Rathers So I > just did > Interesting maybe? > I find myself asking “dan May have covered a lot > of cults but was he ever raised in one?” > Also , he is just using cults as a lever for > personally hating the president.. I think Dan Rather is right. Ha
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Interesting about the affairs and abuse. I was in the San Diego group at the time that JRS “excommunicated” Mel Bailey because he got caught in an affair of some sort. I am wondering if RD Cronquist was involved in any of that sort of thing. He had abusive tendencies in other ways. Just curious because he played mind games with a Girl I was going with during a relationship counseling session.
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typer Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I think the Marianne being refered to is Marianne > Nagy. She was my wife's maid of honor when we were > married by David Cokas in the Valley on Sept. 25, > 1978. My wife was at Blix for a short time in > 1976-77; then we both worked at FineLine graphics > from early 1977 to about the end of 1978.
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NancyB Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I love digging deep for treasures. Here is a "gold > mine" I did not know existed to be dug up. Goes to > show how little of the future God revealed that > could come back to haunt the likes of JRS - well > worth the re-share. > > Re: The Living Word Fellowship, The Walk, John > Rob
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People might find the column “Lexington” in the June 15 2019 edition of The Economist” interesting. It has an interesting commentary on the current state of the Southern Baptist Convention (this is how they they refer to their denomination, I believe). Apparently it is rife with sexual scandal, stemming from similar misuse of so-called shepherding principles as being discussed here. Worth a
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KUSI story here: Looks like they put a fence around the place. I probably haven’t been there for some 40 years.
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changedagain Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > p.s. it appears Hargrave has 'moved on' and is > now attempting to become an established > international ministry. Not a bad tactic--when you > fail miserably on one level, instead of > retreating, pursue something much greater. > "Leaving this realm, to move into another"..
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Richard M. Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Reepicheep Wrote: > ------------------------------------------------------- > > Greetings from Radio Free Land, > > > > Richard M., putting your story together with a > > quote from 40yearsin2016 that changedagain > > recently reposted, it is clear to me now that > > Mari
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Amos Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > changedagain Wrote: > ------------------------------------------------------- > > Onion Wrote: > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > > > p.s. I still do not believe that God > transported > > John into the future (from 1972 to 1979) to > > wi
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Tmason Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > changedagain Wrote: > ------------------------------------------------------- > > Ohman? Wrote: > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > > From Hawaiian shirts to orange jumpsuits > > please!! > > > > great slogan :) > > > I still
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Someone can add “Black Holes” to the lexicon. I believe this was was a reference to collapsing to nothingness before god or something like that. This was one of many things that I saw JRS pick up from the current news of the time that I realized he really knew nothing whatsoever about. Maybe someone remembers this?
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AMOS >> According to Stevens, some of Cronqiist’s counseling was troublesome, with a lot of focus on explicit details about married couples sex lives. This was said from the pulpit. Really wield stuff. << I can attest to this personally. Sometime in 1972, I set up a check-out session with RD with my then girlfriend. He talked to us together and then each of us separately. In my
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Where can I find the survivors thread on FB? I have found a couple FB sites but they are all TLW sites as far as I can tell.
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larry bobo Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I’ve posted this several times before, but some > may not have seen it. These are some Latter Rain > teachings – you decide if they sound familiar to > what you heard in TLWF: > > The Latter Rain, Restoration of the Church, > Restoration of the five-fold ministries, > Pre-rapture spiritu
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kBOY Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > THE JEWEL: > > > I'm afraid I am not going to be of much more help > with the Mel Bailey situation. I was a young buck > at the time, living on the 'farm' across from CLW, > which of course is now the Rayen Resort--or > whatever the hell they call it. (I never had the > pl
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kBOY Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- (Remember > all the scuttlebutt surrounding Mel Bailey in > Anaheim?) We were also stuck in the east when all > the 'divorce-wars' were taking place. We were > also not in a position to get our ears close > enough to go beyond whispered gossip. > Could you add some more color to what happene
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> My understanding is the walk churches do the > Jewish festivals and feasts because those are the > ones Jesus did when he was here. JRS frowned on > Christmas and Easter and had published a booklet > about the various holiday icons that he equated > with the golden calf. It's odd isn't it that > everyone in the church helps Rick put on a > Christmas Ca
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reveal Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > FROMSOUTHCHICAGO, I'm glad you asked about > Marilyn's funeral because it's something I have > thought of posting about on here for some time. I > was there and it was very, very odd. One, we had > to pay to attend. No kidding. We were told we had > to register if we wanted to attend th
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GSchaeff Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Wow. It's incredibly telling of Shiloh's ulterior > motives that they want homeschooling space at > their facility only to turn around and treat those > kids as hired help. It's likely that they justify > the homeschooling space by saying the surrounding > school districts are a bad
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changedagain Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > "The point of modern propaganda isn't only to > misinform or push an agenda. It is to exhaust your > critical thinking, to annihilate truth." > -Garry Kasparov > +1 Kasparov has appeared a couple times on Preet Bharra’s (probably got his name wrong) podcast. Mostly politics but m
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Tmason Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > My best memory of RD was his extremely poor > driving. He would habitually press the gas and > then let off, press and let off, again and again > until you felt like throwing up. In the very early days (pre-barn) he held services in a converted garage behind his home in Chula Vista, CA. Not too far from th
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puddington Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Ah yes, I have platform memories of Earth shoes > and Binaca. Ahhh...., Binaca, I wonder if they still sell that stuff. It was sort of like TLW “holy water”.
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NancyB Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > TheJewel > > BINGO! > I think they thought we would never know. No > revelation of the coming internet with vast > information. There was a lot of “snake oil” being sold. I was not ever close to JRS but I was somewhat close to RD Cronquist. He was a follower of some of the Latter Rain types as
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puddington Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Here’s a question: Besides the First Principles, > we were also told in the LW that JRS was the one > who started the act of “singing in the spirit”. > I suspect that is not really true and that other > early pentecostal groups were doing this long > before 1951. I had heard somewhere, perhap
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