changedagain Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Meanwhile...our Narcissist in Chief will be > speaking tonight--presumably to unify our country. > I sure hope he speaks out against that Nephilim > Robert Mueller. He's the real threat to our > Democracy! > (sarcasm alert) It was exactly this that prompted my earlier remarks. There are
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Reepicheep Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > changedagain Wrote: > ------------------------------------------------------- > > BTW, aside from weathering criticism from those > > who lost their life savings in the mine > > debacle...did John take a significant financial > > hit? I recall an allegation in the divorce > trial
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NickleandDimed Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Was John's psychic gift to read people from God? > Maybe it's not a gift at all . Scientific > investigation has found some are born with psychic > abilities. And some have gotten it through > transference. There has been some mention. That > Braham may have laid hands on John and tr
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NickleandDimed Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I'm always curious to know. For those who weren't > kicked out. At what point do those who leave get > disillusioned? Is it after maxing out your credit > cards? Or after studying the School of Prophets > manuals for 40 years. Never gaining the power of > telekinesis. Or never seeing
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puddington Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Does anyone know the details about the end of > Coniah Chapel? When RD changed the locks on the > doors and kicked everyone out? The remnant of > the congregation met somewhere else and eventually > suied RD to get the property back. Is that how > CoHK was born? RDC thought that the facil
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lily rose Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > puddington Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > RD was quite the showman wasn't he? > Especially > > in his wildcat pentecostal days. > > > He also was quite the doomsday false prophet. > > R D Cronquist of Grace Chapel, Califor
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Wow, Orange Avenue Fellowship. RD held services in a converted “garage” out back. I remember he used to get fired up and hop across the platform on one foot, right arm outstretched shaking his finger (at the Devil, I guess). Occasionally a cuff link or his watch would come flying off. I remember thinking of Ian Anderson (of Jethro Tull) when I would see Kim do that. Strange how those memorie
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NickleandDimed Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Today many brainwashed wanna be false prophets > from the little remnant will gather. At the school > of prophets. Words will be spoken to pump each > other up. You are the elect. You are so special. > Words that have no authority will be spoken. That > are meant to shake our nation. Watch out
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NickleandDimed Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > ....And offering your personal opinions about > spirituality or religion was against the rules. It is our personal opinions about spirituality and religion that caused us to make the desisions we made, both to enter into TLW and for most of us here, to ultimately leave it. So, it is only natural that the
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slandjt Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > How convenient, Larry. You repented and God gave > you a fresh start? Give me a break. I notice > your example was of the woman caught in adultery > that was brought to Jesus. I wonder what happened > to the man she was caught in adultery with. > Apparently in your Jesus world, men aren't h
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puddington Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Maybe we could organize a rally with signs and > stand outside the CLW church in North Hills. We > could demand transparency on where the assets > went. > > Then again, maybe not. : ) Get Gary to hold a town meeting.
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changedagain Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > FCSLC Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > Maybe G-man could give a message about > forgetting > > Submission, he could go on a roll. > > Yes > I've read from a few posters on this forum, > familiar with his early days, stating he ro
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> However, if you make any kind of positive remark > regarding Celebrity Apprentice and/or Arnold > schwarzenegger, then yes, you will need to stop > postinng. LOL. :-)
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40yearsin2016 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I remember message just around the rise of the > Timothy's that confused everyone - something a > long the lines of "you can't separate the man from > the message". The popular interpretation I > remember was that if you loved the word you had to > love JRS also: warts and
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Badlad1955 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > During my time in the walk, 72-76 I did know JRS. > During those years much was hidden behind closed > doors. I spent a year with the School of prophets > teaching. spending a year with Coniah chapel in > SD. I would not trade that year that I had with RD > Conquest. He was a man of God. And yet w
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LampShmamp Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Stevens' death was caused by cancer, not "the sin > nature." Cancer is in no way some divine > punishment, nor an indication of innate evil. It > is superstitious nonsense to suggest otherwise. > This is 2017, not the middle ages, and anyone can > and should break open a biology boo
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"I never knew R.D. Cronquist except to see him sometimes at South Gate. He would put his chair right next to the pulpit on the platform and sit right in front of all the others on the platform. That always seemed strange to me." Yea RD definitely had a strange streak. I always thought he wanted to be on par with JRS in some way, which is what I suspect you were picking up on. He ha
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changedagain Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > TheJewel Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > Try this one: > > > > > > 6/8/24680235/jrs_the_walk.doc > > > > It just worked for me. > > > Thanks, Jewel. > Here is an excerpt (pg 34-35) regarding the mine &
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Try this one: It just worked for me.
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lily rose Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Tmason...JRS's son in law Richard Helphand was an > attorney and he was involved in the mine > investment along with JRS, but I don't think > either of them were prosecuted. I don't recall > every hearing JRS publically apologize for > misleading the congregation to invest in the min
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Lamp -- I totally agree. Most of what we call "cultic" in TLW exists throughout Christendom in varying degrees. Unfortunately, a lot of this seems wired into human nature. Just look at the recent election -- we elected a demagogue.
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TheSarge Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > From reading all this on mind control, hypnotic > worship, and ministerial oppression for power and > wealth, I see how the continued deep-seeded > damage for some who have been out for 20, 30 years > is completely valid. Why? I figured it out. > Jesus! > > Think about it! He started
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larry bobo Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > > > .....that is back dropped against some > apocalyptic world view. They begin to use fear to > motivate followers, insisting the leader is the > only person with God-given insight to direct them > in the coming crisis. > Sounds like Donald Trump -- sorry, I couldn't resis
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LittleBird Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Hello. I'm another ex-member, first-time posting > here. I was born into the group, after JRS died. > Anyone from the San Diego church here? I am from San Diego (mostly the South Bay, Coniah group). Unfortunately (or maybe "fortunately") I bailed out about 30 years ago. So I am only good
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Apostle Dog Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > My own belief on it all, is no matter what JRS > thought, or anybody else thinks, I personally > think we are all going to find out what is what > pretty soon. I go right to the bible now days and > it seems to me the book of Revelation is pretty > much matching the news, or the real news, the ne
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Apostle Dog Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Bob Mumford and Derik Prince repented of and > distanced themselves from the shepherds movement > in the early 1980s, when did the Hargraves pick it > up? Below, you can pull it up and read all about > it. They just modeled their thing after something > that was already pretty much tried and re
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FCSLC Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I made it through the first one third of the > article about the Nephilim. Good Lord. It gets > too complicated, too many references, too much > spin, so easy to justify hate and division. > It’s mental illness as previously stated. When > things start to stray from the simplicity God > intende
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FCSLC Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Will TLWF become a church without boundaries? > Associating, accepting, regarding as equal and > understanding as relevant the differing aspects of > God manifested in each individual on planet Earth? > Instead of thinking about ruling and reigning, > will they settle for being a team member among th
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> K boy, > > I count 12 passages in the Bible that mention Holy > Books that are found in Heaven. I know the Bible > doesn't resonate with you like it does with me so > we agree to disagree if the Bible is true, but Mr. > Ross has said this isn't the place for debating > the veracity of the Bible except as to the way > Bible based cults twist the scri
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Apostle Dog Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Vain Glory was not all that good. One of the > things that was weird to me about that, was this > dude saying that John Stevens ordered pastors to > sleep with women in the church. That is a bunch > of crap. Some of it was OK some of it was hype. > Also to me if this was supposed to be about a
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