howamidoing, please correct me if I am mistaken, but are you talking about abuse in the COL? Have you read tmason's posts in which he's been recalling abuse from many years ago. Also a few years ago, filthy apron, posted here about "inappropriate situations." I am not qualified at all to weigh in, but I do know there is strength in numbers, and all of you have my non judgmenta
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Cloudwatcher.... Let her rip! I love it...coffee and donuts on me.
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changedagain Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > The regrets can be > overwhelming. I regret the time I didn't stand up for myself on this forum because I wanted to give someone the benefit of the doubt.
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kBOY Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Upcoming Event With Father Claudio > > March 17, 2017 — Friday — by Gary > Hargrave > > ming-event-with-father-claudio/ > > I invite you to join with me this Sunday, March > 19, 2017, as I attend an event at Mother Mary and > St. Jude Thaddeus Parish, a Catholic church > located
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Tmason Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I have seen very > little of the famous CTLW judgemental behavior on > this board, perhaps because we are all seeking > some therapy and closure. > I think you're correct. There's been little judgmental behavior, but it has and does happen. I wish there could be a strand just for the "l
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NickleandDimed Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > lily rose Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > > > My addiction was JRS science > > fiction stuff, you know the mystic and the > > paranormal powers. > > > Lily, you read my mind. Me too. Ha ---------------------------
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NickleandDimed Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > changedagain Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > "I think part of the purpose of this forum is > to > > keep newcomers from being sucked into it...and > to > > help those who are trying to break free, even > > though it's al
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larry bobo Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I also think it is very important > to provide those that are considering involvement > in these groups to be able to make an informed > decision. What is posted on TLWF website is a far > cry from the bait-and-switch that awaits them. At > the time I left, if someone would have said the > g
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slandjt Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I deeply care about the people who > have been harmed and continue to be harmed by this > cult, especially my sister and others like her. > She doesn't know any better at this point in her > very long life in this cult and I don't wish for > her to be liberated because this is all she kno
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Saw enough Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > The Feast of Purim is coming up. Which means that > just around the corner the flock can expect to > hear the annual messages comparing Marilyn to > Queen Esther who went before the King and > interceded to save the Jewish people from > destruction. Some of the more zealous faithful > will c
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larry bobo Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > lily rose - I received an email from a family > member that I assumed was monitoring this website > in order to even have my contact info. His > understanding was that they belonged to John. I > believe I still have the email somewhere, but I > would prefer to keep his personal info > confid
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Good point kBoy. The unexpected Catholic connection sure has spawned a lot of joking and sarcasm speculation on the forum, but I don't think the Catholics are going to give up their doctrines that they are the one true church or is the LW going to give up their doctrines that they are destined to be the manifested sons of God. BTW, I doubt that the average Catholic worships Mary except maybe
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changedagain Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > NickleandDimed Wrote: > > > Couldn't hurt. Less fellowship isolation. Big > > improvement over G&M outreach to cult leader > moron > > Todd Bentley. > > Never heard of Todd Bentley, until now. This is > the summary from Wikipedia: > > "Todd Bentley
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Catholicism isn't a cult. I was raised Catholic. It's not anywhere close to the mind rape, rigid control and unquestioning submission of LW. Please read the link.
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Did you see those photos of Gary in Brazil? I think he gave up hairspray for Lent.
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changedagain Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Amen > > > Tmason Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > Twoteetwo Wrote: > > > -------------------------------------------------- > > > ----- > > > larry bobo Wrote: > > > > > > ---------------------
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40yearsin2016 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- Last weekends School of Prophets from Brazil THE SCHOOL OF PROPHETS RESTORES OUR TRUST IN OUR FATHER Newsflash: Gary isn't God-the-father. He's not even a proper Father. Check out his family history. Ask the other kids what they think of their loving "Dad". ----------------
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40yearsin2016 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I remember message just around the rise of the > Timothy's that confused everyone - something a > long the lines of "you can't separate the man from > the message". The popular interpretation I > remember was that if you loved the word you had to > love JRS also: warts and
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Badlad1955 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > There was much deception during that time, but yet > the sin nature that he carried for years > ultimately cost him his life in 1983. I think there was a time after leaving the LW that I had ingrained in me the LW thinking that God punishes us with disease. That thinking opens the door to discontentment, r
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Welcome Badland1955. After we all left the LW, each of us have come to conclusions about our belief or non belief. Some have had recovery issues and problems and some haven't. I try to respect each persons journey. I read an RR moderator comment about the strands, "Each group and leader should be evaluated on the facts and there are objective criteria to evaluate the group." To me
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CA and Nickle I am following the discussion. I'm lovin it. The imposing of isolation and the bullying (aka the dealings of the Lord) administered by certain leaders were from man, not God. Given all of the brainwashing and mind control, it's hard not to leave the oppression of that church and not think it was the dealings of the Lord. I struggled with that for a long time.
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Interesting conversation CA and Nickle. While I was in line in the grocery store today, a magazine cover story on the Doors caught my attention. So here's another tidbit of Walk history to agree or disagree over. Apparently JRS ministered to Jim Morrison of the Doors and JM became a believer. JM died shortly thereafter. I can't confirm this but I think the ministry might have occurred i
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changedagain Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > pbxguy Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > lily rose wrote, "Remember the song "Sounds of > > Silence." Simon and Garfunkle got credit for it > > but it was written by Jim Beach who grew up in > the > > Walk." > >
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I like that Carlyle quote FCSLC. According to Wikipeid, Carlyle had a respect for restraint in speech until "thought has silently matured itself...to hold one's tongue till some meaning lie behind it to set it wagging." After leaving, the LW conditioning to follow the leadership and never question or dissent can run very deep for many years but this forum goes to show that those
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Welcome to the forum NickleandDimed. Fun huh? Sign me up. I just heard a reporters reaction to yesterday's Pres news conf, "All righty, then." Ha. That could be the average reaction to the greater works hype that is fed to the good people in TLWF. "All righty, then."
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This is the completion of my previous post on the LW distortion of scripture to separate us from our families. For some reason part of my previous post wasn't captured probably due to some ineptness on my part. I wanted to reiterate Invisible's important point on 2/8/17 (quoted in my prior post): And he said to them: "You have a fine way of setting aside the commands of God
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Invisible Wrote in Part: ------------------------------------------------------- > Now you know that in many cases the members of TLW > were not being "permitted" by the ministry to > associate any longer with their own parent or > parents, and the members obeyed the ministry in > order to keep the commitment they had made to God > - to unconditionally obe
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Larry who knew a cowboy proverb would be such a hit with Walkers. Hee Haw
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Invisible that's a good point. Within the Walk I am aware that Francis Frangipane, David Cokas, and Mike Sthuler (he was from Southgate and has a different name now which I can't remember) all broke away from the LW and started their own churches. Maybe there are others we don't know about. There was discussion on the forum that G&M feared that John Miller might have taken a fo
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Invisible and Cloudwatcher thanks for your input and fresh insights. Invisble your post gave me more food for thought. Your said, "The members were led to believe that by unconditionally obeying the ministry they were giving themselves to a deeper and purer devotion to God--in their serving of God. Before the members of TLW church were led to give the ministry control of their lives - th
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