Cloudwatcher Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > LampShmamp Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > I believe that the assumption that we need > > periodic updates regarding the number of page > > views to date is incorrect. Just saying. > > I completely disagree,Lamp. I am glad that > Ch
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kByrne you aren't alone in feeling like you don't fit into another church. A number of posters have expressed that. It's ironical that JRS said rather arrogantly that the LW had ruined us for anything else. I think JRS meant that he gave us pure unadulterated truth when in fact much of what he gave us that came from his own personal so called revelations was false. And that in itse
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kbyrne-also a while back I learned here that David Cokas had a church (Living Water or Living Spring...something like that) and website. I visited the website and listened to one of his sermons and one by Brent who was introduced as a guest speaker. I think David has tried to keep some of the ex-pats in the loop of the charismatic/Pentecostal movement. That movement is not my cup of tea anymore,
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Welcome kbyrne. I'm glad you found this forum too. Where you part of Blix the entire time you were involved? It seems a number of the Blix folks eventually left. Feel free to express yourself and share any insights.
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changedagain Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > > I've read from a few posters on this forum, > familiar with his early days, stating he rose > quickly up the authority chain after joining the > fellowship in SD. One poster said he was an > assistant pastor within 6 months. If so, how did > that happen? Perhaps just more dedicated,
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lily rose Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Speaking of the whore of Babylon, according to JRS > wasn't that code for the Roman Catholic Church? I > wonder what G-man now thinks of that? On the > internet, some claim it's Mecca or even Hillary. I > simply cannot move on in my jouney until the mystery is solved.
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And then marshmallows began to fall from the sky. And a voice from a helicopter said, "Don't eat the ones that fall on the ground." But the children couldn't hear him. And many children got sick and never recovered or joined in another Easter egg hunt.
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kBOY Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Passover — A Nature Change At Gilgal > > Posted on April 12, 2017 > by Gary Hargrave > > > over-a-nature-change-at-gilgal/ > > (Will LOVE finally be included in the nature > change this time?) > > - - - - - I don't think so kBoy. I recently attended a friend's fun
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kBOY Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Two Churches, One Heart – Together, Bringing > God’s Kingdom > April 9, 2017 — Sunday > by Gary Hargrave and Mr. Rogers > > - > churches-one-heart-together-bringing-gods-kingdom/ > > > (Or how to subsidize the overhead and keep from > going under.) > > - - - - - >
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NickleandDimed-I'm more concerned about being dragged off of a United Airlines flight than being evangelized here. But I see your point. Keep speaking out. The message board rules as I understand them prohibit proselytizing beliefs, atheism, political view points, hate speech etc.
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NickleandDimed Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > SouthGate Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > > > I would say most ex-members unless you were > booted > > out or had a broken up marriage would ever say > > anything bad about John. Especially the > leadership > > at the tim
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changedagain Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I was born a poor black child. I remember the > days, sitting on the porch with my family, singing > and dancing down... > Wait...this is someone else's journey. Please > disregard. ??????
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kBOY Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > * * * * * FLASHBACK SUNDAY * * * * * > > (Or all the fun we are missing out on.) > > - - - - - > > Passover Judges The Gods You Serve > > Posted on April 7, 2017 > by Gary Hargrave > > > over-judges-the-gods-you-serve/ As we approach the Feast of Passover, I am drive
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Puddington and NickleandDimed: I think there is a special place in hell reserved for pastors who call innocent members vessels of satan and little fuckers. 40yearsin2016: Thanks for the NY TImes link on leaving ultra orthodox Jewish sects. The article was riveting. It's uncanny the similarities to the LW. NickleandDimed wrote regarding Miller and others: "IMO obeying orders doesn&
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Thanks BenTHar for the reply. Southgate, if possible, to fully appreciate your post, give a link to a video or soundtrack when sharing music lyrics. Slandjt, I must say I was a little taken a back about the San Diego reunion. Please keep speaking out. FCSLC, yes and it's time the veil was shred over TLWF.
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Here's a thought. Assuming the light bulb truly went on for Miller and he had an aha moment about the LW, his testimony about what went down (the deception) in the LW could possibly help it implode from within. That's also assuming that Miller still has the trust of his previous congregation. On the other hand, he may believe that Marilyn turned JRS bad and he (Miller) was once part of
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NickleandDimed Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- >> > howmidoing, FB so members can connect. Find old > friends. Good idea. Yes to that. I enjoy relating to most everyone on the forum even if we don't share the same beliefs. But because this message board isn't about discussing our beliefs, I thought that possibly FB could be a place to
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howmidoing: I don't think the book is available. The few books that I have on cults I found in used book stores. Also, I found this previous clarification from the RR moderator helpful: "There may be certain beliefs or teachings by a group or leader to manipulate and exploit people. In that sense discussing beliefs can be relevant." Do you have a specific vision for what people wou
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> larry bobo Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > > > > I think an important point to recognize is > that > > TLWF is no more a Christian group (or > the > > Religious Right for that matter) than to say > the > > Pharisees were representing God in Jesus’ > time. > > They are very different and they exhibit
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Cloudwatcher said "Freedom is not overrated." Although it was many years ago, I never felt as free as when I freed myself from freeing the Apostle.
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Thanks BenTHare for sharing about Dad Stevens and Francis!! Slandjt when I first came to the forum I think I thought that if those forced out of the LW turned away from Christ, then the LW won. I have since changed my thinking. I know there are some on the forum who think that not one will be lost and I respect that. But for each person, IMO it's a personal decision that should be respect
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NickleandDimed Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > kBOY Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > REPACKAGED FOR A NEW UNSUSPECTING > > GENERATION: > > > > - - - - - > > > > "Fulfill The Original Vision Of The School > Of > > Prophets" > > > > Mar
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larry bobo Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I sure appreciate the new posters, as well as > those who have recently posted after taking a > break for a while. Everyone sharing their story > is certainly helpful to others. I spent a couple > of years with a shrink trying to sort through > things and perhaps the most important thing I >
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I know for a fact (from a credible source) that the day JRS had visions of the future at Holy Jim Canyon, Martha laced his toilet paper with LSD. If anyone dare question me about this, I will shun you for eternity. Yes, I will. Thanks light777 for giving us tp fodder to have fun with.
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light777 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > > 4. My love and zest for life has / had diminished > significantly... feeling very usurped, however my > struggle with this, as with all of the other PTSD, > is that only I can allow myself to own these > feelings, or the circumstances that created this. > When all is said and done, it is me th
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howmidoing, I am glad you posted and told the forum. I am very sorry that happened to you. You didn't deserve it. You were a child. Nothing was your fault. Rape is a crime and the adults in the church had a legal obligation to report it to the police. I wish I could hug you in person but I guess the best I can give you here is a virtual hug.xxx In answer to your question and accordin
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NickleandDimed Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I relate to your posts light777 and puddington. My > mom was in the church for a short while. Dad made > her leave. Never got to thank him for that. > > > puddington Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > > > > > You mention P
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light777 welcome back and welcome BenTHare. I found your posts and perspectives so meaningful. Hope to hear more from both of you again. I made a plan when I left. There was no courage or strength on my part. I just did it. My hope for everyone is ALL the families can one day be reunited and healed. Yes, as Cloudwatcher said a Grand AHAA moment. The recent discussion on therapy is im
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